Anyone else just... prefer natural to synthetic?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Hoppípolla, Oct 23, 2013.

  1. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    I know that thinking about it I will probably find that there are no shortage of hippies who share this attitude :)

    I just find that I am far more interested in drugs that are natural. Something synthesized in a lab has less mystery in it for me and just doesn't excite me as much. Leaves, buds, flowers, cacti, shrooms... they're all just so much more incredible to me than any test tube or white powder!

    Makes you feel more connected to the Earth too, and makes you feel like you're enjoying something that people have enjoyed for so many thousands of years.

    Opinions? :)

    Oh, I mean, I have no massive problem with a synthesized chemical that is identical to its natural counterpart, for example synthesized DMT, mescaline, psilocybin, THC and so on. I'd rather it came from the plant itself but.. at least I know that the compound is natural in origin.

    Be great to hear your views on this!

    Peace!

    Hoppi
     
  2. MeatyMushroom

    MeatyMushroom Juggle Tings Proppuh

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    I get where you're coming from, but in reality every drug is natural.. even the synthesised ones, since they're synthesised by humans and humans are, well.. part of nature :p

    I'd much rather take some acid than munch some datura, or some MDMA rather than some death caps or cyanide.

    Edit: Basically, I prefer to judge the chemical itself, rather than it's origins. BUT I do agree the untouched plant based chemicals do feel "earthier".
     
  3. BraveSirRubin

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    You shouldn't be doing drugs at 28. It shows emotional immaturity on your part.
     
  4. MeatyMushroom

    MeatyMushroom Juggle Tings Proppuh

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    That's what they'd like you to believe.. it depends completely on how you use them.
     
  5. lode

    lode Banned

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    Natural in origin is kind of a misnomer.

    Synthetic drugs are almost all variation of organic compounds, which is pretty similar in the method you change the chemical structure of marijuana plant by burning and inhaling it.
     
  6. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    tbh, the drug that really fucked me over in the past was the one that people kept telling me was "safe because it comes from nature" so i always treat that argument with a pinch of salt.

    It doesn't really make any sense to me, it seems like so much of this "man-made" versus "natural" thing is a false dichotomy, especially hearing people lump coke in with the "man-made" camp. it comes from the coca plant, just like opiates come from poppies, we tinker with them to increase potency, but we do the same with the weed that you smoke and the shrooms you munch on, where does the tinkering cross the line from "natural"(good) to "man-made"(bad)?

    i get that there's kind of a romantic appeal in knowing that what you're taking grew from the earth and all that jazz, but i tend not to ascribe that too much significance beyond that romantic appeal.

    judge chemicals on their individual merits, i would.
     
  7. guerillabedlam

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    I do tend to feel more connected to nature from the natural organic drug experiences compared with the synthetic man-mades, however I dose synthetics more frequently.
     
  8. Jo King

    Jo King wannabe

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    I love wool but it can get stinky. And flees dries so quickly but without a wind breaker....
    Oh wait, what are we talking about
     
  9. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    Hm, interesting replies!

    I guess I am in a minority then haha

    I do remember hearing one member at least say he likes natural stuff.

    It really isn't that I wouldn't consider taking purely synthetic drugs... I just love nature :)

    And of course I realize that lots of things in nature are very harmful like... well, many things! A million poisonous plants and a million poisonous animals/insects!

    But... I dunno, it's amazing too. Like sitting next to me I have apple cider vinegar, coconut oil, grapefruit seed extract, eucalyptus oil, colloidal silver, cayenne pepper powder, castor oil and so on. Nature is just so great! ^_^

    Recreational drugs are only one branch (excuse the pun) of this amazing tree of wonderful compounds out there in nature!

    I can cure almost anything with natural substances (I believe), and then get wicked high to celebrate! haha :)
     
  10. Hedgeclipper

    Hedgeclipper Qiluprneeels Nixw

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    I disagree with this exclusionary mindset (although I see where you're coming from and it can definitely be a good rule of thumb). Think about Datura and MDMA. You've got a terrible natural drug and an awesome synthetic drug right there. Although, in general, I'd say our tampering with molecules has produced more shitty drugs than nature has, it just comes down to the specifics of the chemical every time.

    At the end of the day my favourite drug ever is Mescaline, and that's natural. I just love eating cacti. But you can produce mescaline synthetically, and it's the exact same compound. So I think that you can't say natural>synthetic or synthetic<natural. It just comes down to the compound in question.


    e: if we're talking cannabinoids then natural>synethic for sure! those synthetic cannabinoids are terrible drugs and weed is, well, weed.
     
  11. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    By the way, I find this funny lol :)
     
  12. Gyro Gearloose

    Gyro Gearloose Senior Member

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    Hello,

    jepp, wool is the way to go. I keeps you warm even if it's wet. So better be warm and stinky than cold and fresh like a daisy ;).


    Judging from the title I thought this is a thread about boobs ;).

    Regards
    Gyro
     
  13. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    haha, actually after I made the thread I realized that the title didn't specify drugs... oh well xD
     
  14. magic_rocks

    magic_rocks ٱللهِ ٱلرّ

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    When it comes to drugs, I do not discriminate; but I will have to concur the sentiments shared above, that the difference between eating mushrooms or cacti by comparison to LSD and others (the 2C's for example) can be immense and that an awareness of nature does seem to arise with the former on many different levels. Both tend to elicit spiritual phenomena but sensitivity to nature as both intimately familiar and yet utterly alien seems to be a default component to enduring a mushroom trance, and this tends to feel unfathomably ancient, primal and it stretches from the visceral to the epiphanic. There are correlates in these differences, on a much more mundane scale, to be found in comparing the naturally present opiate alkaloids (morphine, codiene) to the synthetics and semi-synthetics, the thebaine derivatives (oxycodone, hydrocodone &c).
     
  15. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    Well said! Thank you for the great post :)
     
  16. Gyro Gearloose

    Gyro Gearloose Senior Member

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    Hello,

    welcome to RT ;).

    Regards
    Gyro
     
  17. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    hm, just did an advanced edit and it worked ^_^
     
  18. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    no.

    well, in that case..
     
  19. Hoppípolla

    Hoppípolla Senior Member

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    yeah it failed xD

    Yeah I prefer natural boobs too!
     
  20. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i read the op, because i was wondering what kind of natural vs synthetic it this is talking about.

    having no attraction to mind altering substances, i have no feelings about them either way.

    i would rather be surrounded by natural environments then sythetic ones.

    i have no preference when it comes to the fabrics of outer garnments.

    i find synthetic fabrics more comfortable next to my skin. at least for socks.

    i certainly prefer synthetic fur to killing little creatures with big sharp teeth from them.

    most of the things that interest me, are or involve artifacts that have to be made rather then found in nature. but engineering them to maximize their harmony with nature interests and is important to me.

    sorry, but chemical substitutes for imagination i have never found to be entirely satisfactory or satisfying.
     

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