Anyone been following the Heathrow (LHR) thing? Something happened...

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  1. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    glad he is doing his part. How many houses does he have now and how many cars? Will he fly to this home, use an electric plane? Are his cars electric only?
     
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    I don’t know the solution here, but I would think Stopping the gouging and tax cuts for using more fuel efficient planes would be rewarded, but if you can’t afford new fleets then old planes that don’t meet the standards has to be maintained. A plane has to dump fuel before landing often as well, Planes are designed to land below certain weights. A heavier plane is more likely to hit the ground hard and get damaged. So they calculate it, the amount required for the flight. If they burn more fuel than expected then there could be a problem, if they don’t burn enough they have to dump to make a safe landing without damaging the plane,
     
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    Price of gas is the lowest it has been in 30 years as well here in Toronto. 80 cents a litre. This is a huge drop, considering a couple of weeks ago it was over a dollar per. People are going to start filling up and hoarding it. This might have happened through the government which can and in some provinces set a cap or a minimum. The government can step in, set prices here in the events of natural disaster. I think this drop is based on the corona virus, somehow. Airline prices will drop in hopes of stimulating the economy.
     
  4. Bilby

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    No point in hoarding petrol (gasoline) in Australia. For small engines it is only good for four weeks. Cars a bit longer.A car engine running old fuel will just run a bit rough.If too old it will not start at all.
     
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  5. WisdomDecision

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    I am sorry, but just this single line leaves me at a loss.

    Have you ever been somewhere that is truly poor? Like sub-Saharan Africa, or the slums in Rio?

    If you don't think we, living here in Canada, are the richest, most privileged people who have ever lived (not among "1st world" countries, but among all people alive today)....

    Then you need to travel more. You need to see how absolutely destitute most of the world's people are. And you need to realize that you shouldn't take your unrivaled privilege for granted....
     
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    Yeah, kind of not my problem. Their government can deal with it or not. Have you seen the extent of poverty in Canada? No? Well that is because it isn’t put on the news and it doesn’t have a feel sorry for me kind of attitude and no group that shows it, looks for funding. Vancouver is the most expensive and wealthiest city, Which is where that guy is from. You should get out of his bubble. When people in Canada do not have fresh drinking water and are poisoned by the water they do have, and our government does nothing, but will give in aid to others supplying fresh drinking water, then I just don’t care. When a government intentionally keeps provinces poor while enriching others outside its borders, then I just don’t care.

    it is all relative.
    I have travelled, probably more than you. I doubt that you have personally seen poverty or experienced it, and simply see poverty on a screen. Australia too has some extreme poverty. So does the USA. So does South America. Yeah, I just can’t concern myself with everyone else or the give to Africa, give a shit about Africa. help the children. Play on my sympathies, be understanding of your funding when you don’t supply funding for your own country. Their Africa’s government should do better, There are plenty of children who need help here. Need food & water. So Canada presents itself in a propaganda manner, which toots the best healthcare in the world, not true. Everyone is living in luxury, not true. For a country that can not supply fresh drinking water, when it has the largest supply of fresh water in the world, there is a fucking problem. 15 percent of the USA lives in poverty. Don’t you have a problem with this? That is 16.4 million. I suggest you leave your tower and open your eyes to what is in your own backyard. Clearly you don’t go to impoverished provinces, town that are living in terrible conditions and struggling in Canada. Just stay in your nice hotel when you travel and don’t see beyond the bubble.

    margaret trudeau is president of Water aid Canada, a non profit org, giving water to other countries, but not to Canadians without it. Brilliant,
     
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    I did not know that, but then again I don’t drive. Lol
     
  8. WisdomDecision

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    We are just going to have to agree to disagree.

    Have a nice life.
     
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    Big Jet Tv Heathrow..
     
  10. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    ok, seems that is what so many Canadians do, close their eyes to it. Don’t want to face reality. Pretend that life in Canada and the USA is perfect but pointing the finger at other places as in need. That was 16.4 million children in the USA living in poverty by the way, not including adults. Measuring poverty in canada, the way the Canadian government does it, is also a joke, it is extremely misleading to the people here and to those outside it.
     
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    wow, few planes moving, only a few cars for people going to and from work I suppose, for the most part.
     
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    Do you know if people’s temperature is taken at airports for all? Like they are doing at hospitals?
     
  14. WisdomDecision

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    Ball lady.

    #1: I really didnt like how hostile you were being. And are being. Statements like "Have you seen the extent of poverty in Canada? No? Well that is because it isn’t put on the news ... " Blah blah blah, are just juvenile.

    I lived in the country in Manitoba directly next to the Rolling River Reserve. Half the kids in my school were indigenous in ancestry. I know all to well the conditions some Canadians in. I am absoultely ashamed that Canada has what amounts to 3rd world countries right here in our ultra rich Palace of a nation. The politics here are complex, but I am absolutely ashamed of it as a Canadian.

    Try not to make such outlandish assumptions.

    #2:
    I simply don't understand how you get that I "don't want to face reality" from "agree to disagree." Perhaps you could enlighten me to your thought process.

    #3:
    I said that we should "Agree to Disagree" because I am closing my eyes to YOU. I saw in your repsonses someone who was hostile, and who, without a shadow of a doubt, would not be swayed by anything I would say. I don't care that I am getting taxed. I honestly can't believe that is so important to you, when there are so much more pressing things that need attention. Climate Change isnt a leftist plot to take your money (This is me making assumptions about what you think). It is the single most dangerous, existentially theatening, event that humanity has ever faced.


    Ball Lady, you are just looking for a fight. And I am totally uninterested.




    Ugh. I hate when I sound so sassy....
     
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    well I am canadian too. Indigenous is the UN term, here we are aboriginal or native or even Indian. Or can we go with our tband association? Don’t go with the new term of today that you have decided to cal” us now. I am dispelling the belief and the lie this government has presented, people are completely unaware of the conditions for some people here and it is a lot of people.

    I am all too well aware that the politics at play are very complex, as I said, people completely unaware of our own constitution. Tossed out with the trash. I do not like that Americans have this vision of what Canada is, and needs to be hit over the head with a reality check. What the state of our healthcare system is. Who is responsible for the terrible decline. I have spent much time in Newfoundland and Labrador. Know what a struggle is and what poverty is. Our poorest provinces, it is a shame and really sad how these provinces have been crippled. I am of Canada, or what you call it. I know the effects of residential schools. I see a government who has said, you are legitimate and you are not legit. No, Labrador, you can not prosper, that must go to Quebec. No Newfoundland, you can not do this, you must hire french, no native people, you are not native, you do not qualify, let me tell you whAt you are now. Indigenous! The UN says indigenous, Well, tell me this, who is not indigenous? Who is indigenous? It is also a shame a terrible one when our countries concerns are with the UN and not Canadians, not native people, that is for certain.

    1. being lost! I am not native in the eyes of the government! Why? Because my grandfathers mother (native Miꞌkmaq) married a native Miꞌkmaq whose mother married a Half Miꞌkmaq. You see we had a law here which is still in play today. The native blood only followed the mans line. You lost your affiliation with your people In the eyes of the government, your affiliation, but not traditions, they didn’t die, just hidden. through government laws about who could own land. This is the same thing on both sides of my family, So I am Labelled supposedly Canadian. Even though beothuk and M’kmaq are the same people genetically, Beothuk are supposedly extinct, so m’kmaq are not native to Newfoundland. Canadian, no, this is not true either. The Trudeau government comes in and tells people, there is no such thing as Canadians! You are all immigrant, oh you are behaving like Americans. You are greedy. Wait, stop, no, you are behaving like an American. American became shunned here, it still is, The people got tired of hearing this. Then told you are being uncanadian! But there is no such thing as Canadian. I am in Ontario, no no, no clean drinking water for native people. No no! Let’s worry about the greater picture here. It is about ingenious people everywhere else. I am sick being told to look at the greater picture. I am sick of the UN sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong and grand standing. I am sick of a country that has crippled people and crippled the healthcare. The grass is greener to Americans, . It is not what this government has led others to believe. Americans could use a reality check. I have been to the US and have seen how it works there. How their healthcare is. It Is better. Also was in touch with native people in and around minneapolis.

    2. It has been a head fuck. just a few years back the census was done under trudeau, I didn’t fill it out. They came to more door making me do it, I didn’t know what to put for my ethnicity. I explained I am native. They said, do you have proof? I tried to be legitimized again after that, thinking things had changed, perhaps. The forms to fill out were for the mans side only and grandparents, my grandmother, my dads mother was also native. It was useless, the government made sure that this just disappears. Doesn’t exist, you are nothing, you don’t matter. While the French within Canada in DNA tests can be French Canadian, there is no English canadian Results on those test. if they find native mix, you get to be French Canadian, not Métis. My cousin got this test. I refuse as many others do as well, who know they are of native people. Unrecognized. These tests are government subsidized. Don’t define me, don’t tell me who and what is important. Don’t tell me what I am! Native women and men also hid this for census in the past.

    3. white women who married native men gained native status, even in the 80’s and 90’s. What did this do? What role does a mother play in the raising of their children? What happened when a native woman married a man classified as white, even though he was half? Both of them are just swallowed up and lost. forced into a society that never accepted them.

    4. It has snowballed, this socialist ideology. Has anything I said here untrue? Being canadian! About what it is like in reality? How it has become a money grab, of wasted taxes and government abuse? We are slaves. But I don’t matter, you don’t matter, everyone else matters but they don’t matter either. You can’t care about others when you are not cared about, when you as an individual, and as a people are told you don’t count, you are nothing. Carbon tax was a bs money grab, another one. The liberals grandstand, just like all the other bs they say and taxes they impose as my land is sold off. The carbon plan disappeared as soon as the tax was imposed. This is a problem. If we as a society sits back and accepts it as do. Just silent, nothing will change. It is sad we have accepted it,

    5. Not looking to fight at all. Just dispelling the myth.
     
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    I do not care about global warming anymore. Yes it is the responsibility of each individual to decide what they will do, and not for the government to abuse the funds and tax us more when they never had any intentions of addressing the issue. That is a major issue. No one is forcing the government or inquiring into how the government plans on using the tax they added on, or where that money is going.
    مشاوره خانواده تلفنی مشاوره تلفنی خانواده مشاوره ازدواج تلفنی مشاوره ازدواج تلفنی مشاوره قبل از ازدواج مشاوره روانشناسی تلفنی مشاوره روانشناسی تلفنی
     
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    Google alone use more power than
    Few people realize that HAL (Heathrow Airport Ltd) employ more than 76,000 staff. This includes security, and air operations, including a police station and fire stations. Some of the gate staff are payed by the airlines that they represent. The operation is so large that they cannot buy electricity from a supplier, so they have the cost of distribution networks, as well as transforming and regulating the 11,000 volt delta (without neutral) supply that they obtain from the national grid. Sewage is a major problem and due to the distance between the buildings and the sewer (in Bath road) they need several pumping stations. The sudden use of toilets when a flight lands is a problem unique to airports. This is mainly because as the last passenger leaves the toilets, their is a period during which the sewage stops in the pipes. I helped with designs to overcome this, since it is also a problem in large cinemas and theaters.
     
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    This was an interesting read.
    (I’m not familiar with most of that stuff)
    Being a uk bloke!

    It seems to read as racial discrimination though.........and some parts are plain dumb.
    Man marries out....woman marries in?
    Who made that up?

    (It’s like saying an English bloke marries a Spanish girl and ceases to be English?)

    Not cool in the apparently PC world we supposedly live in.
     
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    Big Jet TV is live from Heathrow if anyone cares..

    IF you roll back you can catch this ..
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  20. 6-eyed shaman

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    I can totally relate to this as an American. Being American has, in a way, become a bad word here too.
     
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    What does that have to do with global warming? Would that mean that it's real and the wealthy are disproportionately responsible? I agree. But it's more corporations and not a person who had a high paid government job and money from book sales and public speaking. You seem to think wealth only exists as the expense of the planet. That house is not going to be worth as much one day. But that's his choice.

    Private jets pollution is not much compared to the real polluters. It's not efficient travel but people don't have any choice. The right wing likes to have a double standard. Global warming is not real and you don't need to do anything about it. But when left wing people don't do anything they should have driven an electric car. The world is dependent on fossil fuels that is the problem. By your standards people would have to live like the Amish. Addressing global warming is not that.

    Like 6 you are confusing poverty with caring for the planet.
     
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