Any other Corporate Hippies Around?

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by Texas Rob, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. Starr

    Starr Member

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    Amen, brother!
     
  2. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    easy to say when you are fresh from the nest. Harder to say as those years of housing payments build up.

    I'm a hippie in drag at work: bun the hair, wear appropriate clothing all of that.
    Can't help but hear the Bobs' in the back of my mind: First I was a hippie then I was a stockbroker, now I am a hippie again....
     
  3. peaceful chaos

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    I hate to sound like a complete spammer but this is exactly what were trying to accomplish over at the peace fest forum(http://peacefestforum.proboards54.com/index.cgi). Hopefully you'll join in and help as theres only 4 of us on there so far.




    *peace be with you all*
     
  4. so instead of a tool you are a hypocrite and sell out....


    I guess that's okay.......[​IMG]
     
  5. Texas Rob

    Texas Rob Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Quest Techie -- It's surprising how your focus changes when you have loved ones that depend on having a roof over their heads, proper medical care and a full belly. Get back to me when you have experienced a little more of reality. Your parents are likely my age or a little older. I would imagine that they sacrificed for you, possibly idealogically and financially -- took jobs they might not otherwise have taken, and maintained civil relationships with individuals that don't share their views. It doesn't mean that they are hypocrites or sell outs. It's a sign that they love you. At the end of the day -- that's what its all about. Good luck with your efforts to remain "true" to your idea of what a real Hippie is supposed to be.
     
  6. freeinalaska

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    Yeah..that is what it's about. Taking care of my family, feeding them, giving them a safe warm place to live, educating them and teaching them to live as a kind and thoughtful person is top on the list. A lot of us have done that without exploiting others and while being true to our ideals and philosophies.

    Sitting in front of a computer on the internet, using Microsoft windows and IE fuels one the the largest examples of American and world corporate endeavers. So....one can maintain one's hipness and hippy status while using and supporting microsoft, buying or eating food produced by a corporation, and staying warm by heat produced by big oil, but if someone works in corporate America they are a sellout. Hmmm.
     
  7. wizarddrew77

    wizarddrew77 The Wiz

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    AGAIN-I agree with you two guys!
    This thread amazes me in what everyone is saying.
    As Dr Suess said-Those who mind don't matter and those matter don't mind! Peace The Wiz
    [​IMG]
     
  8. MamaTheLama

    MamaTheLama Too much coffee

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    There's nothing wrong with acting professional at work. I'd rather trust my taxes (and most other things of importance..my kids, my mail...) to someone that looks like they care enough about their job to look together and play the part.
     
  9. drumminmama

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    So the system cannot be changed from within AT ALL?
    I disagree.
    I work for a small corporation that runs 13 comminuty newspapers in my state.
    I cover a white, Republican upper middle class community.
    I also make SURE the Democrats (only 7 Greens in the county, all in a different paper's coverage) also get equal access and covered a peace vigil, political walk and a myriad of "outsider" viewpoints.
    Because I am paid through a corporation I am not counter to the culture?
    That sounds too simple and simple ideologies do not work long term.
    My secondary "work" is art. I manage an artist. I'm facilitating getting some amazing community visions into the world.

    How about the accountant who has an off the grid office?
    How about the lawyer that defends activists, pro bono (for public benefit)?
    Radical professors at universities?

    think deeper, Spooner.
    the mind-set of changing the structures for the better needs to be everywhere, From San Miguel County Commissioner Art Goodtimes (Green) to the researchers at UCSF, Wayne University, and Harbor UCLA who are looking into the application of MDMA for post traumatic Stress Syndrome (and aren't themen and women coming back from Iraq going to need that?)
    How 'bout the free spirits who land a job near what they love to fund their lives outside work. Ed Abbey worked for the National Parks Service. Hardly a shill of the government, and probaly lived more of his life on his own terms than most people , like Hunter Thompson, who made many a check from corporations.
     
  10. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Ok, you are missing the entire point of everything I am trying to say. So lets make a couple of things clear to begin with: I am not a hippie. This is not some elitist hippier-than-thou pissing contest.

    And try not to be so patronizing when you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Do you even know what a corporation is? Working in an office doesn't mean you work for a corporation. Law offices are not Incorporated. At least in Canada, universities aren't. Neither is National Parks Service. A corporation has no other goal other than making money for their stockholders, hence why they do such horrible things. They can't have any other goal, and no accountant can give them a conscience. So stop trying to justify it.

    You're self-worth shouldn't rest on being a hippy. And you shouldn't give a damn what I think. But hey, it's your life. Keep lying to yourself if you want. Just don't expect me not to yell "Tool" when I see one.
     
  11. Sus

    Sus Hip Forums Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Sometimes it takes a person who can "live in the middle" (translate...do the corporate dance but yet resonate with the hippie "free spirit" ideals) to get the message across to those who would be totally enmeshed in the mainstream if they did not have a "guide" to help them see that there is another way. Someone in the mainstream is not likely to listen to a dreadlocked man or woman in Birkenstocks (don't know why...I would!) regarding issues of environment, ecology, a world without war, etc. That is just the facts. It may take a Texas Rob, a FreeinAlaska, a Drumminmama to get through the skulls of mainstream America that it is OK, profitable, whatever, to be aware of the world around them, to think ahead about what the affects of what we do will have on the next Seven Generations...however you may want to interpret it...As I said in my earlier post, I believe there is room for us all.
     
  12. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    man all i know is i do my bosses job for him 50% of the time,, it gripes my ass,, i fuckin hate kissin ass to the corporate world,, but I WILL NOT CUT MY HAIR, SHAVE MY BEARD,KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT WHEN I KNOW IM RIGHT, SUBMIT TO A DRUG TEST,OR PUT UP WITH ANY OTHER OF THERE STUPID ASS MADE UP FUCKIN RULES!!!!

    An ive been there workin on 20 years,, quite frankly they kiss our asses just as much as we kiss theres..

    man the system is just that,,, if ya beleive in yerself then be yerself,, stand up...

    if ya beleive in droppin out then drop out,, if ya life sends ya on a path that isnt conducive to at that moment in time drop out again,, then ride it out,, yaare makin a diffrance..

    but thats just another opinion from a uneduacated hippie(wannabe in spoonners an quick trips eyes,, ) ;)
     
  13. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Poseur sums it up better, but I'm glad you're learning.

    I don't care if you work for corporations. But don't call yourself a hippy and expect not to be made fun of. Other than that you may actually be a cool person.

    I doubt it though. You guys all reek of that elitism lots of hippies have.
     
  14. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    can i call myself a hippie an tell you to FUCK OFF??
     
  15. pabsy

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    haha...brilliant....
     
  16. spooner

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    Have a low threshhold for brilliance, don't you?
     
  17. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    spooner,, ya know you have a elitest attitude... i dont care who you think you are,, or what ya are in reality..

    elitism is going to be the downfall of the world,,..

    why you ask??

    because there are so many narrowminded people just like you on both sides of the discussion..

    to me your just as bad as any corporate big wig in the world..

    your narrowminded and not willing to even think about anything but your own agenda,,

    so much for all humanity working for the good of mankind in yer minds eye huh??

    sure youll work with them when they agree 100% with your beleifs..

    ELITEST...
     
  18. freeinalaska

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    A corporation is a legal business entity formed usimng the particular bylaws of your particular state. Corporate structure is designed to protect the owners from liability from major fuck ups. In a sole proprietorship the owner is liable. In a corporation the owners have protection and separate their personal money from the company money. This does make way for ditching liability by an unscrupulous individual. Many corporations are small and are not out to get rich at the expense of others. Let's see...the Corporation for Public Broadcasting in a non profit corporation. Ummmm. Dr. Bronners is produced by a corporation.....Tom's of Maine is a corporation...the list goes on and on. Almost anything you purchase from a store is produced by a corporation. There are many businesses operating under the corporate structure that are honest and good, trying only to make money by providing a product or service that consumers want.

    I am not defending the large Halliburton like corporations out there, but blanket statements about all corporations or those who work for them are ridiculous.
     

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