Another Nra Mass Shooting....

Yaaaaahhh.

 

Everybody who buys a gun is not mentally ill.
The kid in South Carolina isn't. He just hates blacks

 

pretty sure that guy was mentally ill too. Being a sociopath and being racist are certainly not mutually exclusive.

 

I've been trying to stay away from the media's reporting of this shooting but I did happen to read today his mom is a gun nut.

honestly, gun enthusiasts need to do better if they want to be taken seriously. If you pass your gun loving genetics to your child and they go on to kill a bunch of people with the guns you love so much, or you carelessly leave easy access to your guns and your aforementioned progeny steals said guns, or even worse you leave your guns within reach of a small child, and yet youre the type of person to go on and on about your "rights," your point is pretty fucking moot.

 

So I just read up on NRA firearms courses. A basic handgun course is 8 (eight) hours.

A basic handgun instructor course is 16 hours.

OMFG

 

Pot sales equal money, and it doesn't kill anyone.

 

The gun culture is a mental illness.

 

He crossed the mental line when he killed a bunch of people he didn't even know. But I agree otherwise that simply owning a gun, a pretty basic machine, is not a sign of mental illness. No more than owning a car turns people into cab drivers. Now people who drive like assholes and use their car to express their feelings, are mental cases.

 

Or perhaps those with mental illness are attracted to the gun culture.,

 

Rebublican Presidential candidate Chris Christie has said we don't need more firearms regulation. This is rich for a guy coming from a state where you need the OK of the local police chief to purchase a pistol. The NJ Supreme court recently ruled that police can search any car, any time, for any reason. This is to take illegal weapons off the street.

Concealable hand guns are the criminal weapon of choice. Assault rifles get the sexy headlines. two different story lines.

 

My point was to replace the "gun culture" with one that also makes money, and doesn't kill others.

I've heard it from many in the media and posters here, that there's nothing that can be done. Pft! That's a defeatist attitude. if you don't think it's possible to do something, you won't be able to do it.

Trump's answer is more guns...Yesterday he said that if there were more guns in that class room, they would have been better off.

Really? More guns in movie theaters? More guns in churches? Are we going to send children to school with guns so they can feel safe?

Is that really what America calls a civilized society? I call it a pandemic of stupidity.

 

I don't think I would dig learning in a classroom where fellow students carry a gun (unseen or not). I would also not dig watching a movie in a theatre where people would carry concealed just to anticipate a looney. In fact if I knew about it, it would kill my fun wether a gun is shown or not.
It seems plain stupid and clearly not a solution to decrease gun violence in any way. I have a hard time taking America serious as a nation when its most popular candidates for presidency say such incredible stupid stuff.
Happily he's not the president and the guy who is often sounds much more sensible about this particular issue but still... such a huge amount of people (seem to) feel so misguided about what America is and should be and to what extent sensible gun control (not talking about a complete ban at all) takes away from that.

 

Actually, I agree with you. If I had my way, all guns would be confiscated, and melted down. I know that won't happen.

 

It's easy to blame guns when you fail to look at the deeper picture



Gun culture has been around hundreds of years. The rise in school shootings has a strong correlation with the rise in psychiatric drug prescriptions.

 

I find the rise in children taking psychiatric drugs very concerning too. A lot of these drugs have never even been officially approved for use in children under 18.

 

America has more loonies & victims in the mix, we dont look so crazy when you view it from a per-capita basis as it really should be viewed.

I mean if a Nation only has 25% of the total population that we do in the US, there would be something SERIOUSLY wrong if they were "outgunning" us.


http://www.ijreview.com/2015/06/348197-obama-said-mass-shootings-dont-happen-in-advanced-countries-like-in-us-one-chart-proves-him-wrong/

 

The big picture here is not Rep or Dems.

There have been Democratic Presidents so surly they could have done something about gun control. So much for the Brady bill, cough Clinton cough. So it is not just Republicans. Gun violence really took of during a Democratic President, Clinton. The same one who didn't accept Bin laden from the Saudis and the same one who "did not have sexual relations with that women" or Inhaled.

It is the desensitization of everything. Kids play games which makes it easier to consider the notion to actually pull the trigger. Society allows us to be victims from bullying; allows us to be victims to terrorism; the same that says Big Pharma is fine for my back pain, never mind the addiction; while we are at it lets by a gun while waiting for my script.

We cannot blame anyone. We are all to blame for everything that goes on.

A little info on Guns during Obamas reign:

Guns — Although Obama campaigned on a promise to re-impose the expired “assault weapons ban,” that has not been accomplished, and his tenure has actually been marked by a remarkable rise in the sale and ownership of firearms.
In 2014, for example, the number of criminal background checks of potential gun buyers hit nearly 13.1 million, as measured by the National Shooting Sports Foundation’s adjusted figures. That was 46 percent higher than in 2008.
That 2014 figure was the third highest on record. The number hit a record of nearly 14.8 million in 2013 — which was an increase of 65 percent over 2008.

The NSSF figures are the closest approximation we have to current sales figures. The NSSF adjusts the FBI’s monthly statistics to remove background checks requested for concealed-carry permits, which are not related to sales. However, not all background checks are followed by a sale, and an unknown number of private sales take place without any requirement for a background check.
The figures cover all kinds of firearms, including handguns, rifles and shotguns.
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/01/obamas-numbers-january-2015-update/

Some polls on gun ownership:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.asp

Dem and Rep Gun polls:
http://www.pollingreport.com/guns.htm
You will find with the above link, the alarming aspect is, they both think that given stricter gun laws would NOT reduce crime

 

Here's a thought, let's worry about a real killer of Innocents for a change.
I mean the technology exists *right now* to nearly eliminate all of these Deaths by a simple device that disables the ignition system on a Car if you can't pass a simple Sobriety test so why isn't it a standard feature on all automobiles if we're all so concerned about saving lives?

http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html