Another nail in the coffin for monarchy !!!

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  1. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Since Mrs Windsor has accepted Barbados has a right of self-determination in respect of monarchy, isn't it about time that facility was extended to us too, so that we can become a better democracy with our own ELECTED head of state like other Republics !!!



    Queen responds after Barbados removes her as head of state


    The Queen has said the decision to remove her as head of state in Barbados is one to be made by the country's people and government.

    On Tuesday, Barbados announced it intended to "fully leave our colonial past behind" and said "Barbadians want a Barbadian head of state".

    A speech written by Prime Minister Mia Mottley and read by governor-general Dame Sandra Mason said the country would aim to make the move ahead of its 55th anniversary of independence, which is November 2021.



    Dame Sandra added: "This is the ultimate statement of confidence in who we are and what we are capable of achieving.

    "Hence, Barbados will take the next logical step toward full sovereignty and become a republic by the time we celebrate our 55th anniversary of independence."

    A statement from Buckingham Palace on Wednesday said: "This is a matter for the government and people of Barbados."

    The Prime Minister's office agreed it was a "decision for Barbados and the Government there", and a Number 10 spokesman said: "We obviously have a shared history and remain united with Barbados in terms of history, culture and language, and we will continue to have and enjoy a partnership with them as members of the Commonwealth."

    Barbados gained independence in 1966, and in 2016, the Queen praised the island nation saying: "Since you became an independent country in 1966, you have continued to flourish and grow into a strong and confident nation.

    "The extraordinary talents of your people, from the cricket field to the music industry have been admired and recognised throughout the world."

    Guyana, Trinidad and Tobago and Dominica have all made the same move of removing the Queen as head of state after independence.

    They are still in the Commonwealth, a voluntary network of 54 nations which work for common ideals.

    The Commonwealth's role and function has been raised in recent months following the Black Lives Matter movement across the UK and the US.

    Prince Harry and his wife Meghan Markle, who remain president and vice president respectively of the Queen's Commonwealth Trust (QCT) despite not being working royals, have raised issues in recent weeks, as they forge their new path in California.

    In July, on a call with representatives from the QCT, Harry said: "When you look across the Commonwealth, there is no way that we can move forward unless we acknowledge the past, and guess what, everybody benefits."

    Meghan said: "We're going to have to be a little uncomfortable right now, because it's only in pushing through that discomfort that we get to the other side of this and find the place where a high tide raises all ships.

    "Equality does not put anyone on the back foot, it puts us all on the same footing – which is a fundamental human right."

    Barbados' decision could trigger other nations to make the same move. The issue has been raised on several occasions over the years by Jamaica, but the country's constitution makes it difficult.

    According to UCL: "The difficulty lies in the Jamaican constitution, which has very high thresholds for constitutional change: two thirds majorities in the House of Representatives and the Senate, and any change to the monarchy must also be submitted to referendum."

    Australians have also debated the same issue, but in a referendum in 1999, the majority of people voted to keep the Queen as their head of state.

    Nations which have the Queen as head of state have a Governor-General who represents the Queen in that country.
     
  2. Captain Scarlet

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    I think it proves the point we are not Great Britain anymore. The term "Great" has been eroded for some time now. The Commonwealth games will end up being a home nations competition in time.
     
  3. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Can they make RhiRhi Queen of Barbados then?

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  4. wilsjane

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    What makes you think that they are going to appoint a female Queen. :yum::yum:

    Sorry VG, I could not resist that one. :tonguewink:
     
  5. Vladimir Illich

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    The Australians already had priscilla, queen of the desert, perhaps we ought to make VG queen of Sydney !!!
     
  6. wilsjane

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    I was thinking back to the rehearsal for the royal film performance when we were setting the equipment up. The operations manager who was being presented to the queen that night seemed the obvious choice, so for the rehearsal, I told him to play the part of the queen. He played the part so well and had everyone in hysterics.
    He was slightly less amused a few weeks later when he he noticed a small brass plaque had been added to the picture of his presentation which took pride of place over his desk. It read, "The Two Queens".
    Now I wonder who put that there. :yum:
    Those were the days.
     
  7. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Yay, Im not the only one:

    Fans call for Rihanna to replace Queen Elizabeth II as Barbados’ head of state
    After Barbados announced plans to remove the British monarch as its head of state, fans of Barbadian singer Rihanna had a replacement in mind.

    Rihanna fans are calling for the singer to replace Queen Elizabeth II as Barbados’ head of state amid the island’s bid to become a republic in 2021.

    The ‘Work’ singer, whose real name is Robyn Rihanna Fenty, was born and raised in Barbados. It was there that her talents were discovered as a teen.

    On Tuesday, the Caribbean island’s government announced that they plan to “fully leave” their “colonial past behind”, meaning they would remove the 94-year-old British monarch as their head of state and dissociate them from their previous coloniser.


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    Following the announcement, the Savage X Fenty founder’s fans “nominated” Rihanna, 32, to replace the Queen.

    “It’s time for Barbados to remove Queen Elizabeth as Head of State, in favour of Queen Robyn Rihanna,” one fan requested.

    Another demanded, “Replace her with Rihanna, you cowards!”

    Replace her with Rihanna, you cowards!Barbados to drop Queen Elizabeth II as head of state - CNN

    — Christine.py (@BroaderImpact) September 16, 2020
    “Barbados should make Rihanna their new head of state,” a fan wrote, adding: “No but really good on them separating themselves from the queen. I’d love to see more island nations follow suit.”

    One fan called the replacement of Queen Elizabeth II an “important first step to installing Rihanna as the God Empress of Barbados”.
     
  8. Vladimir Illich

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    If Barbados can do it, then that facility should be extended to all of us, so we can choose and elect a head of state as a President.
     
  9. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I vote Bindi Irwin for Queen of Aus


    Although it really should be an Aboriginal
     
  10. Vladimir Illich

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    I still think VG would make a very good Queen !!!
     

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