Another fun climate change thread

You should easily be able to tell us by what degree then

Pick just one of either Cyclones/Hurricanes or Floods or Bush fires/Forest Fires

How much more severe and frequent are they now compared to say both 200 years ago and 5000 years ago?

 

Very severe

 

In other words, you have no idea

 

Dude did you see the movie The Day After Tomorrow (2004)

Enough, said

 

Love how Mexico closes the border in that movie

 

Sea level at peak was probably 6 to 9 metres (20 to 30 feet) higher than today,[13][14] with Greenland contributing 0.6 to 3.5 m (2.0 to 11.5 ft),[15] thermal expansion and mountain glaciers contributing up to 1 m (3.3 ft),[16] and an uncertain contribution from Antarctica.[17] Recent research on marine sediment cores offshore of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet suggest that the sheet melted during the Eemian, and that ocean waters rose as fast as 2.5 meters per century. [18] Global mean sea surface temperatures are thought to have been higher than in the Holocene, but not by enough to explain the rise in sea level through thermal expansion alone, and so melting of polar ice caps must also have occurred. Because of the sea level drop since the Eemian, exposed fossil coral reefs are common in the tropics, especially in the Caribbean and along the Red Sea coastlines. These reefs often contain internal erosion surfaces showing significant sea level instability during the Eemian.

A 2007 study found evidence that the Greenland ice core site Dye 3 was glaciated during the Eemian,[19] which implies that Greenland could have contributed at most 2 m (6.6 ft) to sea level rise.[20][21] Scandinavia was an island due to the inundation of vast areas of northern Europe and the West Siberian Plain.\


Eemian - Wikipedia

 

This is scary graph. The projected temp in 2050 is higher than almost the entirety of Pleistocene time. And it’s very misleading the compression of time scales for most of the pleistocene exagerates the variation in the more distance . And the source?

 

So basically our goose is cooked

 

Where the hell do you get that from?

From that graph you get our goose is cooked?

 

Yeah, pretty much

 

I read the other day that recent ice cores from the arctic suggest the world goes through natural warming and cooling processes and we happen to be in that cycle. It also suggested thay greenhouse gasses would more than likely help prevent the earth from heating up too much.

The natural cycle was for the world to warm to a BJ out 6* before it cooled again. Their studies suggest that we have only raised of upward of 2.6* during this cycle which would reconfirm that greenhouse gasses might actually be helping us.

 

I have a very good idea.

It's possible Australia will become uninhabitable. If temperatures raise as much as 20-30 F as some thing that means your summers will be 130-140F in some places. This is already going to happen in the middle east.

 

Basically I think people don't want to accept this because they find people like me who speak of it annoying.

There is a lot of personal feelings about our views and I see it here all the time. Since we say it then it's untrue and that is sad. The human race is facing something tremendous here it does not matter if someone votes one way or the other.

 

Oh, you have a very good idea do you?

Well then just tell us, ie answer the original question.

How much more frequent and severe are cyclones now than they were 5000 years ago?

10%, 20%, minus 30%....what?

 

I don't have the degrees needed to give you specific numbers. I listen to scientists who do. Cyclones are only one element of climate change. I think depending on the test done and the region done you will get slightly different numbers. It's not really cyclones that are the main issue either. It's hurricanes and rising sea levels. Also a climate that makes growing crops hard. For example like I mentioned it's hard to grow crops at 140 F.

So I hesitate to give a number since you will pick it apart. The bigger picture is that it is occurring at greater frequency.

Tell me why is it not happening. Can you really look at the world and think it's the same? For this to be a lie it would be the largest conspiracy in human history. Dozens of governments and scientists across many fields would all have to lie. And for what reason?

 

Lolz, cyclones arent the real issue, hurricanes are hmmm

Is that so

 

Yes to be honest I don't hear much talk of increasing tornado. It's sure part of changing a climate but they have not been as much of an issue in my part of the world.