Another fun climate change thread

I agree. And pretending is not cutting mustard, but we absolutely must begin at some point. By setting a standard at 25,000 tons of carbon dioxide you can cut back; which apparently has been done in California where there is the fourth largest cap and trade system in the world.

California Cap and Trade | Center for Climate and Energy Solutions

It says major reductions are in the works, so I feel like it's less about only pretending. It's more about at least beginning...

 

Up to about 38 billion tonnes of C02 being emitted worldwide 7.8 billion people. 4.87 tonnes per person per year

50 years ago, 1969, worldwide emissions was 13 billion tonnes a year, with 3.6 billion people on the planet. 3.6 tonnes per person per year


Get back to levels of just 50 years ago, we'd have to cut every thing by close to 30%


And according to your EPA, average size petrol car is responsible for 4.6 tonnes of CO2 a year if driven for 11,500 miles (220 miles per week)

Greenhouse Gas Emissions from a Typical Passenger Vehicle | US EPA

 

Well, actually you'd have to go back to third century BC Persian empire for the first battery

 

Greta Thunberg on Twitter

Interesting read.

 

I would mostly agree with the exceptions of Russia and China and China will never stop growing industrially, so there is little that any other country can do.

 

I think that the Chinese are eager to embrace sustainable environmental goals but only if someone else is setting the tempo. That's just my impression from the literature in my Environmental Policy text. I would have to re-read to be specific though.

 

Could you be a bit more specific please?

 

It helps if the US is on board on a national level but no, they're not the deciding factor for the chinese at all. The thing is; if the US is not on board it gives China a solid excuse to not make the ultimate effort. I mean the west can't righteously criticize them without being hypocritical.
Plenty of important chinese are aware there needs to be an industrial change, and investments are being made. But at the same time they have to cater to their preposterous big population. Which means continuing to make use of conventional industrial methods

 

Would love to see more trees taken down however, there are so many people that protest over so many uses of trees.
The point they are missing is that they are a big bushfire risk if trees are left alone.

Would love to see more people walk to work if they don't live far away from where they work.
Some people have been seen to take their cars and drop off kids at school.
Kids should be made to walk to and from school.

10 minutes walk.

 

edberry.com

For your edification.

 

Actually China had very large population for over a century. No nation on earth has done more since 1950 to curb population growth. Period

 

Beautiful countryside!

Kinda reminds me of the mogotes en Cuba.

 

Well, it was (and remains) much needed.

 

No nation on earth has done more to curb population growth than the world's most populous nation?

 

Remember they limited each couple to one child?
That was considered a horrendous human rights violation for a while. Haven't heard anything about it for quite a while, though.

 

They are going to have about 400 million people over 60 around 2030


China’s 'one-child' policy led to a demographic time bomb, and now the country is scrambling to undo it