Another fun climate change thread

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Vanilla Gorilla, Jan 7, 2019.

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  1. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Errr, because Im not underwater

    The 11 billion figure is just on two days

    200 billion in one month, god knows how much in the last 40 years

    Lose all that Greenland Ice sheet, sea levels are supposed to go up 7 metres, lose 10% of it, sea levels go up 0.7m

    ...and yet....

    We are way past the point where a 0.7 metre rise should have happened already, hell, you should get at least a 0.3 metre differential between summer and winter.....so why hasnt it happened yet

    Do you think we'd need to wait for a scientific study to tells us the inhabitants of the maldives are walking through a 1/2 metre of water?
     
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  3. neonspectraltoast

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    It's gonna suck when it's hot all the time and everything turns into chaos.
     
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  7. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    There are an estimated 321,003,271 cubic miles of water in the world's oceans. A cubic mile of ice weighs 3,830,559.090.74 tons.
    I don't think 11 billion tons of melted ice distributed over the entire world is going to submerge you.
    217 billion tons of melted ice will raise the ocean 0.5 millimeters or 0.01968504 of an inch.

     
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  9. Irminsul

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    I don't even think I believe 11 billion tons melted in 2 days.
     
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    Some people need hobbies..
     
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  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Once again, the 11 billion figure is just what melted in 2 days

    Near 20 times that in 1 month, 200 billion
     
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  15. Irminsul

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    I'm sure that's a bit of a guesstimation.
     
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  17. MeAgain

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    If you read the quote I posted you'll see that in July of 2019 an estimated 217 billion tons of land based ice melted in Greenland. lt's estimated that melting raised the ocean 0.5 millimeters or 0.01968504 of an inch.
     
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  19. Vanilla Gorilla

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    OMG, not you as well


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    And the other 479 months in the last 40 years that arent July 2019?
     
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  21. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    How about the last 50 years? Estimated eight inches world wide from 1880-2009.
    Remember local rise depends on "such as variations in tidal cycles, local land movement, groundwater depletion, ocean currents, land ice changes, and so forth..."

    ETC.
     
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  23. Vanilla Gorilla

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    So what are you actually arguing then? Climate Change hasnt really affected sea levels

    I'm sure in a different context, in a different thread, If I argued that, you'd be like, oh no, the "experts" say its going go up 10m, they know better than you VG blah blah, in fact Im sure thats already happened



    Plus July is the middle of summer in Northern Hemisphere, so why the scaremongering news story if most of its refrozen as quckly as 4 weeks later
     
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  25. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    The question is what are you arguing?
    You stated that 11 billion tons of ice melted in two days, 200 billion in one month. In spite of this you aren't under water yet, and this seems to you to be proof that global warming and melting land based ice isn't causing the oceans to rise. Or am I wrong in that assumption?

    I pointed out that the ocean is vast and that amount of ice melting will not significantly raise the ocean level in that short amount of time although itt will rise. In fact estimates are it will rise 0.01968504 of an inch.

    Then you asked how much the ocean has risen in forty years.
    I replied that the estimate over fifty years is eight inches.

    So what I'm saying is that the amount of ice that melted off of Greenland due to climate change in 2 days will raise the ocean level by 0.01968504 of an inch, or a little over 1/64th of an inch.
    The amount the ocean has risen over 50 years due to climate change is about 8 inches.

    Loss of ice from the Greenland sheet caused a rise in the ocean of 0.00984252 inches in one day last month. (Half of the 0.01968504 inch 2 day rise).
    If we multiply 0.00984252 times the number of days in a year we get a global rise in the ocean of 3.5925198 inches in one year.
    This isn't accurate as many factors enter into the rise of the ocean and the melting and refreezing of the of the ice sheets daily.
    But climate change is causing the oceans to rise as we look at the effects over 50 years...not weather which is day to day.
     
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  27. Driftrue

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    there are also important things to think about like how the rise in sea temperature is killing coral reefs
     
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  29. Vanilla Gorilla

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    You are basically just helping me confirm that sea levels rises due to melting ice isnt a big deal.

    As Driftrue pointed out, other environmental concerns with climate change/ disappearing ice. But dramatic sea level rises aint one of them
     
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  31. neonspectraltoast

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    Everything's gonna get all hot and sticky, and there won't be food to eat, and locusts will consume the Earth. Man, thanks a lot guys.
     
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  33. Irminsul

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    I wonder why nothing is evolving itself to combat warmer temperatures. Stupid correl reefs. Billions years old can't even adapt. :tongueout:
     
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  35. MeAgain

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    Melting ice isn't a big deal?

    You don't seem to be able to comprehend figures.
    And the rate of rising water is increasing year by year.
    But don't worry your head is still above water.

    And I agree, there are multiple climate problems.
     
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  37. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Oh, is that so

    1/2 a foot or so in 140 years, maybe

    Pfftt

    We are well past the point were it should have gone up several metres by now, if any of those sea level predictions were ever accurate
     
    Vanilla Gorilla, Aug 11, 2019
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  39. unfocusedanakin

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    Some are actuly are but in general warming is too fast a process for evolution to keep up with. What are we really talking here? 100 years maybe 200 of change. Probably the time period when cars were widespread is a good point to start at as far as pollution. That is nothing in nature.
     
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