Another fun climate change thread

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Vanilla Gorilla, Jan 7, 2019.

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    Oh hell yeah. They'll be several hundred feet high as the sea rises. Hell yeah. They'll just keep on growing.
     
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    No. Total land area has increased 2.9%

    By comparison, according to NASA sea levels are currently rising 0.13 inches per year. But good lucjk trying to work out what average world sea depth is, thus doing a percentage calculation

    But if you go to the extreme of the mariana trench, 36,000ft deep, 0.13 inches would be a sea level rise of 0.00003% a year ;)

    But even water 100ft deep, 0.13 inches is still only a sea level rise of 0.01% a year
     
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    Percent added to the water column is pretty meaningless. Geographers know that coastal plains (like Florida, Louisiana, Chesapeake Bay, are low gradient and what may seem like a small increase in sea level can inundate a lot of real estate. Also the change in sea level varies significantly arround the world (geographers also have a lot of evidence the world is indeed a sphere). Compounding the problem is land subsidence...been to New Orleans lately?
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    So how much land in the US do you think you have lost in the last 50 years?
     
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    Ask the folks in Louisiana.
     
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    Approximately 1600 square miles over 50 years.
     
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    Oops! Thanks for the correction. The water rose at twice the global average.
    Sea level is measured at the coasts and by satellites.
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    Come on, you can say it

    You dont know
     
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    This map is interesting. What it shows is the impact of coast lines rising because of tectonic forces in se Alaska and parts of the PNW(not falling sea levels). Come to coastal WA and you can see first hand the elevated beaches from such activity. The othe interesting thing is the rising land in the Hudson Bay Area. This area and a similar area in Scandinavia is rising from rebound after glaciers melted (about 9,000 years ago from last Tuesday.). We call this isostatic rebound. It also shows the impact or rising sea levels elsewhere caused by melting glaciers caused by global warming.
     
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    What map?
     
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    So how much land has been lost?

    Climate change is important, scientists are all over it

    NOAA has a budget of 6 billion a year

    So, should be an easy question to answer, that info should be right at our fingertips ......right?

    Right?
     
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    Sorry to be Mr Negative again, but that probably just means they are going to get neighbouring countries to supply their power........using gas,coal, fission

    Germany’s energy consumption and power mix in charts

    The pie chart, fossils fuels and nuclear where 60% of Germanys production last year

    You will note that the article you linked doesnt actually say how they are going to achieve those targets

    Solar, Wind, crops for Biodiesel, that would be a shitload of land that needs to be cleared

    More likely most of that replacement energy gets brought for Russian Nuke Plants, Polish coal power plants......and at a cheaper rate than if they did it inside their own territory

    Less German jobs, Less tax revenue, and the power isnt getting produced in their country anymore so they get to pretend they've cut greenhouse gases

    Lignite BTW is just a term for shit coal or coal dirt
     
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    Nope going for renewable. :)
     
  20. Vanilla Gorilla

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    So 20 square miles in 15 years 1996, 2011

    Sea level rose one foot in 106 years


    4 references on their land loss indicator page, first 3 are broken links,this is the last one https://downloads.globalchange.gov/sap/sap4-1/sap4-1-final-report-all.pdf not their work

    Doesnt seem to be anything after 2011


    Now, here is where we have more fun:

    NOAA puts the length of the US coastline at 95,471 miles.....dont believe me, here it is on their website How long is the U.S. shoreline? from a calculation made in 1939, hasnt been updated since because this issue is so important to them . Thats the tidal coastline for all states and territories
    Length of the tidal coastline for east coast of US mainland is around 28,000 miles

    Now think about that number, 28000 miles? Portland, Maine to Miami is only about 1600 miles. The actual length of the water line is a lot longer than the general distance

    NOAA didnt really know what the length of the coastline was in the first place
     

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