Ancient Depression

Right I'm off into the health section now to make a new thread "Ancient illness".
What did physically ill people do in ancient times?
Chant to the Gods, then get on with that shit and usually drop dead
Proof illness doesn't exist, maaaan!

 

There were dozens of terms which described various mental ailments.

Melancholy (depression) caused by diseases of the heade, and madness; caused by perturbations of the minde


Hotwater

 

LMAO...exactly what I was referring to earlier in the thread. So damn defensive and angry. This has nothing to do with half of the things you said...I am not trying to be a big man or whatever the fuck you said. This is a free speech site...I simply cannot express these opinions to people face to face because as you can see (and feel) they lose it. I felt this to be the perfect place to express my opinions. I knew it would anger people, but that was not my intention. You wish to ridicule me and cut me down and all you have done is proven one of my initial points. You, like most people, simply cannot handle reality. You have chosen a shadowed, blighted path out of fear and weakness. You attack me for expressing my opinion...it is people like you who make having an open mind a dirty little secret. I hold no ill feelings towards people with "mental disorders" but I do have a strong opinion on the matter and have spent many of my hours pondering such things. One could argue that it is people like you who spread ignorance.

 

You are making personal attacks.

I'm mocking you, and how you are a caricature, a clown.

you are to someone with an opinion as a minstrel show man in black face is to an actual african american.

You are the one who is not handling reality, and you are choosing to attack people who are already having problems, because it's fun to be a bully.

You might want to investigate that insecurity before it gets you into real world trouble, because being an E-bully only works so long.

 

You would also !defend yourself" (actually, just correcting you) and your disorder if you were in our position, dealing with someone so ignorant and persistent as you. I think I have been incredibly calm under the circumstances

I have explained why I am here replying to you. It is because the kind of talk you insist on spreading (which as we have pointed out and you haven't proved otherwise is completely unfounded and senseless) that people like me suffer in silence. It costs lives (No, I'm not being dramatic. People commit suicide when those around them are so closed off and ignorant as you) While that is the far end of the scale, I think all of us with a mental disorder have had our lives made EVEN HARDER by people like you and your "opinions". For what? So you can feel a bit better about yourself? Your "opinion" has no basis whatsoever and I believe we have proven that so my work here is done. As I said, go and argue this with a mental healthcare professional

 

Well said DT

 

I'll tell you something before I go as this caught my eye

I didn't choose this path. I didn't choose to be raped multiple times, be kidnapped and held against my will, have incest and child sexual abuse forced on me or be beaten and tortured. And most of all, I didn't choose to react by developing a mental disorder. It happened. I try with all my heart and soul every day to lead a normal life. I hope it never happens to you. Why? Because I'm not like you. If you truly knew anything about mental illness, you'd know that no-one would ever choose it

I don't expect any sympathy from someone like you. But maybe you'll think a bit more before judging others next time (although I highly doubt it)

I have no qualms about sharing that, even with you. Because I'm not ashamed as I have no reason to be. I'm a strong person, who has chosen a path of recovery and education out of common sense!

 

I would ask that you all go read over my posts again. I have not attacked anyone. True, I lost my temper once or twice, but I was not the one who started name calling and anger-typing first. So, why does it make you so angry if I don't believe in your disorder? I AM NOT TRYING TO SPREAD HATE OR ANGER OR IGNORANCE. I cannot stress that enough. I am not an e-bully. I actually beieve in what I say. That is not something for you to be angry about. If you do not agree that is fine we can talk about it, but both of you got angry over my statements and proceeded to belittle me. Even if you did get angry fine, but if you expect me and other people to try and think about it from your side why is it so absurd for you to do the same? Why is that when I express my opinion I am spreading hate or am a bully? And is this not a good place for this conversation?

Fingermouse...I would say that how the mind deals with traumatic experiences is seperate from what I have been referring to here. I suppose I should have been a little more specific, but honestly I did not think about that until you told me of your experience. It is not the same, in my opinion, as OCD or bi-polar or add/ADHD. I hope you understand.

What if someone reads this and even though thier parents, friends, family, or colleagues want them to believe they have a disorder they realize that with a little strength of mind they don't need thier drugs or thier labels?

 

I can say I'm not stabbing someone as many times as I like, but if I'm pushing a dirk between their ribs while I say it, my credibility really suffers.

 

While I realise my problems are more towards the very harsh end of the scale, depression is my most crippling symptom and depression is what you are trying to discredit. Now you are throwing bi-polar in there too...how many people with bi-polar have you actually met?

My experience has given me such an insight into mental illness, most of all depression. I seriously sympathise with anyone who has been affected by it long term. As I have pointed out, no-one in their right mind would choose it. No-one would choose this kind of life...and it is NOT as easy as "pull yourself together" kind of talk, for anyone who has been properly diagnosed. Yes, as DT said a long time ago, it is overdiagnosed as are many illnesses. But that is precisely because of people misunderstanding what it is in the first place

 

Please reread our posts, this has been answered SO many times now. Do you think repeating this question so many times will somehow give you more credibility? As for angry, as I have also stated now, I am not angry. I am proud of my reaction under the circumstances. People informing you of the truth of the matter isn't anger. But I sense you've really dug your heels in on this, and afterall, people will believe what they want to believe regardless of science and other peoples wiser counsel, so I believe you have indeed hit a dead end

I just hope you think a bit more before opening your mouth next time, for everyones sake

 

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Fuck it...

 

that's a rather impolite way to concede.