Amsterdam considering moving red light district indoors

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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/19/amsterdam-is-considering-moving-red-light-district-indoors

    I personally think this is to hide the human trafficking openly and knowingly going on.
     
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    Amsterdam is an affluent city crowded with tourists, but it wasn't always so. Now, drawing visitors with the spectacle of "window shopping" has disadvantages that outweigh the advantages.

    In past decades, it was considered a valuable "attraction" to have a red light district on every tourist map of the city and in the pedestrian-friendly city center. Times change.
     
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    yes, I admit to walking through the red light district a few times in Amsterdam, just to see what it was like, the first time, the second time I was on the other side of the canal. I was with locals and they pointed out that it was open for all to see human trafficking, and that all girls were brought in for the work, not citizens. That the government is aware it is human trafficking and allows it to continue, promoting it as them being open to women doing what they want, but in reality they are slaves, the UN is also aware and as far as I am concerned are complicit in the human trafficking.

    Amsterdam Red Light district 'is a front for human trafficking, rape and beatings'
     
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    As far back as Victorian times, prostitution was preyed on by pimps who controlled the 'red light' areas of London. Little seems to have changed,
    Meanwhile, many cities and police authorities ignore the problem on the assumption that it reduces rape.
     
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    Interesting considering the article makes no mention of this. I'm gonna speculate that sex trafficking is bigger in places where prostitution is illegal. The market for sex is being satisfied by a legal business in Amsterdam so why would illegal sex trafficking be happening on a large scale?
     
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    the article makes no mention of human trafficking? Yes it does. The women are brought in. The government takes their cut,

    the article is filled with human trafficking. Illegal or not it is happening and making it legal simply allows it to happen in plain site, rather than it being hidden. The Netherlands it is most likely as the repercussions for it are not really in place or checked, it is assumed the girls choose this, by the people.
     
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    Weird. I dont see that in your post.

    Odd that they would have an illegal industry where they have a... well, legal industry. I guess we're left to speculate what that market is. Kids? God I hope not... :(

    Sidenote... I think prostitution should be legalized here in the US. I dont understand how sex between consenting adults becomes a crime the second money enters the equation
     
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    I don’t believe it should be legalized, you are aware that most prostitues in the USA are trafficked? The odd few don’t have a pimp or a manager. It is legal in Nevada and this is where many who are being trafficked are brought.

    https://www.unlv.edu/sites/default/...rafficking-ComparisonNationalNevadaTrends.pdf

    legalizing it simply makes the public turn a blind eye to it going on. We know that the United Nations has been involved in human trafficking as well, and also turned a blind eye.

    Kathryn Bolkovac - Wikipedia

    1/3rd of victims are children. They are not put on display in windows.
     
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    Also the Netherlands is in the top 5 countries world wide for human trafficking. I believe they are raked #1.
     
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    Criminalizing the sale of something you can give away for free makes no sense to me. I understand human trafficking is horrible but it doesn't exist because people pay for sex... it exists because sex
     
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    it exists because people pay for it. It exists because there is a huge market for it. Do you know how much money is made from it? Human trafficking, gun trafficking and drug trafficking all exist because there is a market for it. Legalizing it doesn’t change it, guns are legal there, does weapon trafficking exist? They are also all run by the same people and are all connected. Human trafficking is a 150 billion dollar a year industry. Legalizing it won’t change that. The money is still going to the Sex slave owner, whether legal or not. One just makes the public look and say, ah well, it is legal.
     
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    Right, so keeping it illegal baffles me
     
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    so your take is make it legal so people can ignore that it is human trafficking. Got it. Let’s make it easier for human traffickers. Got it.

    and let’s allow governments and the UN control it, profit from it. Good plan
     
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    Do you? Do you "got it?" Cuz that's not my take
     
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    And quoting me in saying “legalizing won’t change that”. Was not at the crux of what I said either, but that is all you are concerned with. *shrug*. I guess you totally missed that the place that has the most human trafficking is the place that has made it legal.

    your take is, it is going to happen anyways, so make it legal.
     
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    Did you read your own source? According to what you posted Nevada is tied for 9th place in the top 10 states where human trafficking occurs with fewer than 200 cases in 2017. California on the other hand, where prostitution is absolutely illegal, had over 1,300 cases of human trafficking in 2017. The difference in cases between a place where prostitution is legal and illegal is literally over 1,000 cases of human trafficking. So, no... I didn't "miss" anything. I just chose not to comment on it since your source only strengthened my argument. I didn't feel the need to embarrass you
     
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    Places where it is legal doesn’t investigate and people don’t report it either, because it is normalized.
     
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    Nevada is a major stop on the circuit,
     
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    Gun ownership is legal but you can bet if I shoot someone, I'll be investigated
     
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    So don’t talk to me about embarrassing, not embarrassed in the least. You must be under the impression that escorts are not being trafficked, That people in massage parlours and strip clubs are not trafficked.
     

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