Americans Are So Homophobic

Understandable..

 

No

 

^^^^your talking about gays being mentally disturbed and condemed to hell, you sound like the raving lunatic.

 

Thats not murder, thats euthanasia, assisted suicide, a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT topic!

Some people, in fact, many people may consider Dr Kevorkian a murderer, but what he practiced is in fact different. Murder, by definition, is much more savage than euthanasia.

Your argument is flawed, though. . .

If someone consents to be murdered, they can knock themselves out. It is not a crime to consent to murder.

Either way, this is a BIG distraction from your initial point.

 

Euthanasia, my point exactly... You way of justifying to be moral.. No, its murder. Oh, it is a crime. You are not credible with this..

 

gee, how could I respond to such a compelling argument. . . ?

Again, this is a distraction from your initial point.

Besides, your signature CLEARY states that you can change someones sexual orientation. The scientific evidence says, you can't. . . that was the point of my post.

 

It's called FACT. Look it up..

 

Murder is an action. Sexual orientation exists regardless of action. This entire bit is just a distraction. . .

 

You people are good at misquoting to serve your own purpose. Just like news media. I said HELP change.. Quote correctly next time please.

 

A FACT!?

Says who? No major scientific or medical organization agrees with you.

 

Since Natural means relating to nature. Let's look at nature. Nature does not promote homosexuality. Plain and simple... Therefore homosexuality is not Natural. Fact. Period. Any arguing with this is like saying the earth is not round---senseless arguing to a fact.

 

AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION "Even though homosexual orientation is not a mental illness and there is no scientific reason to attempt conversion of lesbians or gays to heterosexual orientation, some individuals may seek to change their sexual orientation or that of another individual (for example, parents seeking therapy for their child). Some therapists who undertake this kind of therapy report that they have changed their clients' sexual orientation (from homosexual to heterosexual) in treatment. Close scrutiny of their reports indicates several factors that cast doubt: Many of the claims come from organizations with an ideological perspective on sexual orientation, rather than from mental health researchers; the treatments and their outcomes are poorly documented; and the length of time that clients are followed up on after treatment is too short. "In 1990, the American Psychological Association stated that scientific evidence does not show that conversion therapy works and that it can do more harm than good. Changing one's sexual orientation is not simply a matter of changing one's sexual behavior. It would require altering one's emotional, romantic and sexual feelings and restructuring one's self-concept and social identity.

AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION "Most of the emotional disturbance experienced by gay men and lesbians around their sexual identity is not based on physiological causes but rather is due more to a sense of alienation in an unaccepting environment. For this reason, aversion therapy (a behavioral or medical intervention which pairs unwanted behavior, in this case, homosexual behavior, with unpleasant sensations or aversive consequences) is no longer recommended for gay men and lesbians. Through psychotherapy, gay men and lesbians can become comfortable with their sexual orientation and understand the societal response to it."

AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS "The psychosocial problems of gay and lesbian adolescents are primarily the result of societal stigma, hostility, hatred and isolation. The gravity of these stresses is underscored by current data that document that gay youths account for up to 30 percent of all completed adolescent suicides. Approximately 30 percent of a surveyed group of gay and bisexual males have attempted suicide at least once. Adolescents struggling with issues of sexual preference should be reassured that they will gradually form their own identity and that there is no need for premature labeling of one's sexual orientation."

 

Wrong again..Do your homework please. I'm not taking the time to prove your statement flawed again.. I would watch what you are saying. You are proving yourself less and less credible here..

 

NoWay, is this some weird personal crusade against homosexuality? You posted this not only in this forum, but in the Introduction forum as your FIRST post.

Trust me, the only people you will find here in THIS forum who agree with your opinion are trolls.

Don't try to change people, and for god's sake don't expect to try to make a certain sexual orientation illegal. Ever heard of freedom, liberty, basic human rights, etc?

 

AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION á "The potential risks of 'reparative therapy' are great, including depression, anxiety and self-destructive behavior, since therapist alignment with societal prejudices against homosexuality may reinforce self-hatred already experienced by the patient. Many patients who have undergone "reparative therapy" relate that they were inaccurately told that homosexuals are lonely, unhappy individuals who never achieve acceptance or satisfaction. The possibility that the person might achieve happiness and satisfying interpersonal relationships as a gay man or lesbian is not presented, nor are alternative approaches to dealing with the effects of societal stigmatization discussed ... the APA opposes any psychiatric treatment, such as 'reparative' or 'conversion' therapy which is based on the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based on a prior assumption that the patient should change his/her sexual orientation. á "There is no published scientific evidence supporting the efficacy of 'reparative therapy' as a treatment to change one's sexual orientation. It is not described in the scientific literature, nor is it mentioned in the APA's latest comprehensive Task Force Report, Treatments of Psychiatric Disorders (1989). á "Clinical experience suggests that any person who seeks conversion therapy may be doing so because of social bias that has resulted in internalized homophobia, and that gay men and lesbians who have accepted their sexual orientation positively are better adjusted than those who have not done so."

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So, how do you propose to "help," when EVERY medical association says it can not and should not be done?!

 

The normal person accepts these organizations as fact. No. Credibility is not there. I will be nice and prove this statement. Here is proof of ONE of many instances of loss of credibility of the AMA.

http://www.worldchiropracticalliance.org/media/stroke-may2003.htm

I am not getting into detail with this because most people believe everything they read..

My point proven again. Next...

 

PLEASE prove my statement flawed, especially since I have ALREADY posted the offical stance of the American Medical Association, American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association, and the American Academy of Pediatrics.

 

Well, yes I do, but gays do not believe that.. Here is a quote from someone on this very subject....

gays have rammed thier culture down our throats for years and gotten away with it. christians are being silenced daily..i.e. no more nativity scenes, ten commandments, prayer is school, God out of pledge

Again, I see what you are saying but ignorance isn't always bliss...

 

Already did that. Read my post...

 

^you are ignorantly baseing your opinion on your bible, the bible is a story book not science.