America Spies On Us All

When Shrub Jr. and the Dick invented the "patriot act", which started all this crap of taking all our rights away, the moron cons never said a word until Obama got in. Now they whine and pretend that he invented it.

Jimmy Carter wasn't the brightest bulb in the WH, but he was the only honest one. And he was the last POTUS that didn't add a trillion to the national debt. Carter also wasn't interested in the U.S. being the global dictator. He was demonized by Raygun and the cons for not being the global bully. Raygun promised to balance the budget in his first four years, and ended up adding 15 times more to the debt than Carter.

Raygun almost tripled the national debt. Shrub daddy almost doubled it again in only four years. Clinton balanced the budget. And Shrub Jr. doubled the national debt again, adding more than all the presidents in U.S. history added together.
Raygun added $1.5 trillion.
Shrub daddy added $2 trillion.
Clinton added $1 trillion, but balanced the budget.
Shrub Jr. destroyed the balanced budget in his first six months and added $6 trillion.
Anyone with a second grade education should be able to figure out who is the deficit spenders. Just shows how stupid cons are.

 

it's off topic, but a local newspaper asked readers who they thought was more responsible for lack of federal response during hurricane katrina - bush or obama and a higher percentage said obama - he had only just become a senator - it's a problem in the usa that people do not have educations

 

In this instance it is not about education but remembering what you had learned. I see it happen even with very bright people. They learn a fact and then later state something or make an observation about something which they wouldn't make if they had remembered the previous contravening fact. Notice the confusion is time line. Mostly people don't pay sufficient attention to their lives because they care more or less for things and are not vitally interested in the whole of there life but whether this moments sensation is pleasing or not.
No accounting for taste.

 

The current piece of shit, Has spent more than jimmy, Ronnie and the bush's combined times ten. You never do any research do you? He has actually spent more than every POTUS before it went to hell.

Clinton sold us out on NAFTA to china like a commie piece of shit and caused a shit load of American workers lost their jobs to the cheap working chinamen. That's how he scammed the people and so called 'balanced' the budget.

Kinda funny through the 80's and bush jr everyone had money and jobs were a plenty that paid well and people WORKED and not sat and collected "handouts".

 

The bush vs obama argument is just ridiculous. They were (are) both so horribly sinister and gross violators of our rights that I can't see how anyone can say one was better than the other.

 

Everyone was all for the 'patriot act' when he introduced it, Passed with flying colors.

Taking advantage of it now and upping the kill# of Americans and civilians and then lie, Get caught lying 'blame' another tactic is getting old and is pure evil. He kept it going when there was no cause, Id say more evil sits with him.

But to an extent i agree, Shit burger or shit burger? Sad part is we cant stop it with any side or color or background, They keep getting night and day and scam more and more.

 

Yep...
and don't even matter who the next one's gonna be... they're not gonna be any better either.

 

Can you stay the fuck on topic? There's no end to this dispersal of OPINIONS.'

 

Why are you so aggressive towards EL Tuna ?
rjhangover goes off topic, and it's: it's off topic, but

It's kinda not that off topic because you said:

'I am Dem. I voted for Obama. I thought Bush was pure evil. But now I hate them all. There hasn't been one president in my fifty years who was worth a shit.

They are all traitors.'

Has that got anything to do with 'America spies on everybody'?

I think it kinda gives rise to people complaining about presidents, doesn't it?

 

You're naive if you think America is the only Western country doing this.

 

Does anyone notice that all of the threads on this forum are coming to the point where they are all slightly different but essentially the same?

 

Welcome to an internet forum?

 

It has become more pronounced lately, after my long absence I notice it much more than I did when I started posting here.

 

I know what you mean actually but it's not necessarily a bad thing.

 

yup

 

Well, imo it's because alot of people are upset about the direction of government (for different reasons,) and this is creating discontent even discussing politics; I've been called a fascist for supporting freedom! I think the people have been so conditioned by the mainstream media, they refuse and get angry when you suggest they should think outside the box. It's this normalcy bias that makes people think Obama is any different than Romney or Bush. People get mad at me but look at his track record. He's owned by bankers, he reinstated the patriot act, he signed the NDAA,CISPA,NDRP and, HR347. Essentially, we're screwed cause our politicians are bought. But Liberals blame Bush/Republicans/corporations whereas republicans blame Socialism, Obama and, drugs.

Meanwhile, the problem is being used as the alleged "solution;" when I truly believe there is no solution through a government who can't follow it's own simple little restrictions (The Constitution)

 

We share our thoughts.

 

When all topic's lead back to a pile of black shit, What do you expect?

 

Probably won't be remembering the 'I have a dream' speech next week, right?

 

His 'dream' got him a much needed dirt nap, By his own people/creed.

MLK actually had common sense and if he was still around, Do you think he would support nobama? Hell no, MLK was GOP, He worked for what he got and where he was, It was not givin to him on "handouts".
He was before his time and had solid notions. Not lie's, Blames and 'that didn't happen' BS. MLK had a set of balls unlike the tyrant nobama.