america causes trouble

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by neponiatka, Nov 16, 2008.

  1. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Yeah, German is rather easy too. I like the way German sounds though.
    So...strict....If you know what I mean.

    My mom used to learn Russian in school. But she forgot most of it. Learning Russian used to be obligatory...Stupid communist regime :p
     
  2. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    I feel like it should be obligatory for EVERYONE to speak at least 2 languages.
     
  3. neponiatka

    neponiatka Senior Member

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    right after the ww2 german was obligatory in russian schools
    hitler regime?:D:D
    i think japanese or chinese are far more difficult than russian anyway
     
  4. neponiatka

    neponiatka Senior Member

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    that's because they all are germanic languages
    russian - not
    it has its charm, but man, i would never say it's easy
    i wouldnt have enough will power to do that:D
     
  5. neponiatka

    neponiatka Senior Member

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    well yes...just not everyone feels the need to (like in england) or have the opportunity (developing countries with low level of education)
     
  6. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Yeah. But if someone has the opportunity, but refuses to learn, then that person is just a dumbass.
     
  7. Jaitaiyai

    Jaitaiyai Cianpo di tutti capi

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    thats what I think.

    However, of our 7 forms in our year, people wise, about 3 classes chose a language.
     
  8. HushBull

    HushBull Insuperior

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    Oh yea.
     
  9. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Hey, is French obligatory in UK ? What about Latin ?
    I'm interested in other countries educational systems.
     
  10. Jaitaiyai

    Jaitaiyai Cianpo di tutti capi

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    Nope. No languages are. Well thats how it is in public schools. Im sure private schools make it mandatory.

    Latins not even an option for the majority of students. Its a Gifted and Talented thing only here. I got the option in like year 8 but said no. For others we have french, German, and Spanish. Some kids are advised against taking languages. I took french.

    And don't even bother talking about teachers here. Most of the good teachers are now retiring or moving to a place where people want to learn.
     
  11. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Thats totally lame.
     
  12. HushBull

    HushBull Insuperior

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    I'm just dumbz American with no culture or viewpoint beyond my face. Durpee-doo.

    *I'm hungry too. Thought I would add that.
     
  13. Jaitaiyai

    Jaitaiyai Cianpo di tutti capi

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    I know.

    Most people aren't interested in languages. I think if they started learning from primary schools, and parents cared then maybe it'd be different.
     
  14. Hacker

    Hacker Vescere Bracis Meis

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    All we need is love.
     
  15. HushBull

    HushBull Insuperior

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    I had two years of mandatory Spanish class. I didn't care for it much back then. I still don't. I think the language is ugly. I feel like Enrique.
    I can read Hebrew, but I only know a bit of what I am saying. That's pretty strange.
     
  16. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    I agree. Here a foreign language is obligatory even in primary schools. I think thats a really good thing.
    But some people just don't see a need to learn another language. Okay, maybe English speakers don't need to know German, or French or whatever language....and thats okay actually. I can understand that. But what I can't understand is apathy and unwillingness to learn.
     
  17. IamnotaMan

    IamnotaMan I am Thor. On sabba-tickle. Still available via us

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    Speaking with Russians I can pick it up better.And some study courses are good.But textbook based learning can be soooooo tedious.

    In school , I hated languages -cos English is so popular.And our teachers were atrocious.Plus it means u have to give up something else- a science ,business or whatever.

    But later I got interested in learning Russian properly -after meeting Russians and because its my heritage.
     
  18. Jaitaiyai

    Jaitaiyai Cianpo di tutti capi

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    Thats more to do with the whole attitude to languages here. Kids are ruthless and foreign teachers, language teachers and the like are better targets than english ones.
     
  19. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    I remember when I used to read RIA Novosti regularly...I got soo much information that is simply not available in the U.S. media---

    I can empathize with some of what neponiatka is saying here because I've seen elections in Brazil be manipulated by the U.S.:

    All they had to do was "signal" that if such and such a candidate won, The Treasury Department (through Wall St., or vice-versa) was going to dump the Brazilian currency--- which, in weak economies means a very real and immediate crisis. I'm talking about bank accounts being suddenly wiped out.

    The same thing has happened to Russia in 1991 and again, since the collapse of the Dow Jones in the last couple months.

    Americans have not experienced this kind of severity since the Great Depression--- I have, as a child. So it's too much to ask of them to understand.

    What they care about is abortion and "freedom of the press" and other moral issues because they have food on the table. It's not so easy to care about liberal ideals when you're starving.

    Or when your country's borders are constantly threatened with disintegration--- as in the case of Russia.
     
  20. neponiatka

    neponiatka Senior Member

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    true
    thank you
     

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