America and Britain. How close?

Rationale has fuck all to do? - well , yes we had noticed...

Do you spend alot of time talking to yourself Odon?
Why dont you catch a flight back to Washington?
I'm sure murdering George would welcome sitting next to someone he can look intelligent with in comparison

Lithium , I think you're wasting your time with him.
Looks like we've bumped into Phony Baloney Tony .
The after dinner work must've dried up.
I suppose he'll get back to murdering government scientists...

 

Im lost and feeling tired. How come this thread was dragged up again anyway?

 

You prove my point...

 

Firstly I don't think anyone here would argue that terrorism could be 'justified' however I think it can be helpful to attempt to understand it. In order to do this you need to look at the sociopolitical conditions from which it can arise and these include local and global injustices, inequalities, historical and current wars, divisions and antagonisms. In all of these things the West has had plenty of influence both good and bad, intended and unintended. You seem to be saying "we" (presumably "we" meaning Western democracies?) are only ever blameless and nothing "they" do is ever affected by the policies of governments or the consequences of things which happen in the world, some of which may be caused by those you choose to call "us". As I said, impossibly naive, or simply stupid.

 

This is an intelecual response to "our chickens coming home to roost" which I find repugnant...

 

It is somewhat facile to attempt to reduce a complex issue to an empty metaphor. Consequently it was not so much a response to the meaningless phrase about poultry as it was to your palpably absurd claim that terrorism exists in a vacuum entirely distinct from its wider geopolitical contexts...

 

Hence why I called it idiotic.

 

It doesn't seem to be going anywhere does it? Any attempts at rational argument are just met with abuse. Best leave those trolls to fight it out amongst themselves.

 

Myeah i am getting a bit dizzy:willy_nilly:

 

Is this the "la la la la, I can't hear you" argument?

 

I think a phrase has now been used that irks me more than the original one we were discussing
*Shudder*

 

Isn't it ever so, declaration of understanding of despised action is deemed as excusing and encouraging, and therefore understanding should be denied and even decried.

I agree the roost bit assumes a deserving of wrath tone and is atagonistic in attitude to the citizans of the americas, unjustly.

 

I uderstood what you were saying but you were adding weight to the point, "our chickens are coming home to roost"
...then showing it up for what it was (an empty metaphor).
I was agreeing that it is was an empty metaphor, so was calling it idiotic...not diluting the fact I knew what it meant and that, as you so eloquently put it: "you need to look at the sociopolitical conditions from which it can arise and these include local and global injustices, inequalities, historical and current wars, divisions and antagonisms.
In all of these things the West has had plenty of influence both good and bad, intended and unintended". I was not "saying "we" (presumably "we" meaning Western democracies?) are only ever blameless and nothing "they" do is ever affected by the policies of governments or the consequences of things which happen in the world, some of which may be caused by those you choose to call "us"".
I was saying that to say it was idiotic and to agree our "chickens were coming home to roost" was equally idiotic.
It is like saying, because we sent a welcome note into space, an invasion from outer space was our "chickens coming home to roost", or you might see how idiotic I think the statement is.
Regradless of how we both may see the statement "our chikens are coming home to roost" it needs caveates to make it have any weight.

 

What phrase is that?

 

Welcome back matthew?.

 

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Teh most confoosin fred evah?

 

Possibly YOUR chickens coming home to roost...

 

Like wtf

 

Are you saying i caused the confusion or that i keep chickens?
Either way, youre incorrect