am i safe

they definatley have their relations man... all i am sayin it it is probably as safe as them, as most psychadelics are, i asked for help man, not your bullshit

 

You ask for shit, you get shit.......got it? I'll be damned if some dumb shit kid like yourself shuts down a reliable source.

 

If you actually knew anything about these compounds, you wouldn't make ignorant statements like:

And exactly how are the members of the 2C- family in ANY WAY similar to acid or mushrooms? The fact that they make you trip?

The 2C- group are phenethylamines. The active ingredient in mushrooms is a tryptamine. LSD is an ergoline. 3 different chemical families here.

Chemically, the 2C- compounds would be most similar to MDMA or other amphetamines. Since you claim to know ALL about these drugs, I'm sure you know that lethal overdosages of amphetamine-class compounds are FAR more likely to occur than deaths due to LSD or psilocybin.

Again, people have DIED from overdoses of compounds in the 2C- family. Until you learn a bit of respect and caution for what you are doing, stick with smoking pot. At least you aren't likely to hurt yourself with that....

 

1st off it is not exactly legal to buy this stuff - many may b covered by the analog act - it is certainly illegal now you have admitted you r gonna sell it for human comsumption. & yeah some companies are rip offs & just within the last 2 weeks a company has been raided & shut down. It is said other companies have given over customer lists to the DEA wen pushed 2

your a stupid kid - if u wanna make $ bend over & let old men take ur ass

 

LOL ... Damn man ... LOL

 

Chemicals aren't as safe as acid. You take 25 mg's of foxy to trip and people have Oded on 30 mg's where as it's a lot harder to do that on acid.

 

FRACTUAL..If you PM me I can sell some to you. I'm not a scammer, and if I should scam you go ahead and get a moderator to expose my IP address for everyone to hack me

You need a chem license to buy from that site I told you about. I'm lucky my friend is a chem major and can hook me up so I can..eh..do some research by myself

So PM me if you are still interested. Or goodluck finding it otherwise.

I'vre heard these sites are scammers: (URL deleted) and another one I can't think of at the moment.

Later

 

Deleted? Those weren't sources, they were scammers!

I'm glad I didn't know guys like you all when I was 15. I would've died from sniffing gas. Some people are going to want to get high no matter what you say and we can either be positive or negative about it.


Oh! and r chems, unlike lsd, are legal.

and
they're considered psychedelics.
just
like
lsd.

 

I don't know if they were or not. Either way, they don't get free advertising here.

Not if you posted about it here. The crowd around here is pretty down on inhalants....

Or, you can be NEITHER "positive" OR "negative" about it, and present unbiased FACTS, and leave it up to the individual to make up their own mind about it. Presenting information about the very real dangers of some recreational drugs isn't being "negative". It's being RESPONSIBLE.

Until you buy, sell, or ingest them to get high. At that point, they become "controlled substance analogues", and they are as illegal as LSD.

 

How is it advertising if we're warning people to stay away from that company?

But a 15 year old doesn't need visit here to ask where gasoline is, now does he?
and from what I've seen here, you guys are pretty much 'down' on about everything.

Were you being responsible by allowing the previous poster tell that kid 'your a stupid kid if you want to make $ bend over and let old men take your ass'
not really.

So you're saying all research chemicals are illegal to buy now? Maybe you just don't know where they are. I only know of 2 that are illegal. Mine come in from another state right to this one, no problem.

 

And we would be trashing someone's business based on WHAT? The word of one anonymous poster? Can you say "potential libel suit"?

Much safer and easier to simply not allow ANY posting of URLs for these suppliers, good or bad. There are sites on the web dedicated to just this sort of info, so go elsewhere if you feel the need to be the "Consumer Reports" of the research chem scene. Or do it via PMs. Just DON'T DO IT PUBLICALLY IN THESE FORUMS.

And he/she doesn't NEED to visit here to find research chem suppliers, either. They are all over the web, afterall. But kids DO come here all the time asking about huffing aerosols and shit, and they generally get discouraged from doing so.

The older folks around here tend to be a bit more cautious and circumspect about the advice they give, if that's what you mean. It's called "the voice of experience". It provides a good counterbalance to the reckless types who encourage kids to fuck around with drugs they don't fully understand or respect.

First off, I don't control the opinions of other posters here. Secondly, I think it was an effective (if crude) warning about what could happen if the original poster gets caught SELLING these chemicals as drugs, while trying to make a fast buck.

Where did I say that, smartass? They are illegal to buy, sell, or posess WITH INTENT TO USE THEM AS DRUGS. Hence, the "research purposes only/not for human consumption" disclaimers on the sites that sell them. As soon as somebody represents one of these chemicals as being a replacement for/similar to an illegal drug, the previously legal chemical becomes ILLEGAL. Fucked up, Orwellian, and a generally asinine piece of legislation, but it is the FUCKING LAW here in the USA. Do some reading for yourself:

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/law/analog/analog.shtml

I know exactly where to get just about any chemical I want, or the precursors to make it. And a quick Google search (and some common sense) will find them for anyone else, too.

Lets see...AET, 2C-B, 2-C-T7, DOET, PMA, AMT, 5-MeO-DIPT, etc... Should I go on?

At one time, you could buy pure mescaline and MDMA from chemical suppliers. Then the fast-buck assholes moved in and ruined it for everybody. Same thing with GHB, ketamine, and soon, Salvia.

Again, as long as you are buying them for "research use", no problem (for now). But if you are buying them for use as DRUGS, you are BREAKING THE FUCKING LAW, and using the US mail to do it across state lines. NOT a smart thing to admit in a public forum....

 

Ok, I think undestand now. Thanks for sharing!

 

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What? Not enough balls to post your flames publicly?

Enjoy your vacation....

 

booooo

he was a pretty cool dude, ellis.... can't we all just get along

 

He's got 30 days to cool off. If I really wanted to be an asshole, I would have dumped him permanently, but he didn't deserve that.

 

LOL! 30 days??? what is that, like cyber space prison?

 

Hi,
Im a researcher for Penguam Industries, however we are currently having a bit of a problem. We are in the midst of testing the physiological effects of 5-Methoxy-N,N-methylisopropyltryptamine on small mammals, but our primary chemical supplier has been shut down by the DEA (according to the front page anyway). If any of you could contact me (i have an email, icq, and both aol and yahoo's messaging systems) with information on where i could obtain this substance I'd be very appreciative.