Always tired, and wondering why

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by beachbum7, May 9, 2004.

  1. interval_illusion

    interval_illusion Deceased

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    Vegetarians CAN be more healthy then meat-eaters...

    i've seen it for myself. BUT andy.... many of the things you said are true.

    ive only been veggie for a month now, BUT for a long while i only eat carbs are the wheat and complex with lots of vits. n mins....

    i have eaten lots of raw or fresh veggies and fruits, juice...

    i dont drink soda.

    i drink lots of purified water.

    i mix up my diet too, cause i love food and i get bored with just a few things.

    but, the veggie diet CAN be MUCH more healthier IF people know how to work with it.

    if they dont.... of course, they're gonna have problems. but (and i know this sounds mean) but it's they're own fault cause there are resources out there to know n learn about what you're eating).
     
  2. mick_jagger_is_so_hi

    mick_jagger_is_so_hi Member

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    Are you on any kind of medication, Beachbum? I'm on anti-depressants and for the past few days I've felt tired all the time. As soon as one side effect goes, another comes to take it's place. [​IMG]
     
  3. BoozeJockey

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    I have the same problem...I could sleep 20 out of the 24 hours in a day if allowed to. I can go to sleep, get 8 hours of sleep, and within 5 hours of being up i'll be DEAD tired again and want to go to bed. If i do go to bed at this time, i'll sleep for basically as long as i can. It's not depression(i love myself and want to live! lol), and i doubt it's anemia because i eat plenty of meat. I don't follow any silly atkins diet or anything. I lift weights so i try to eat a lot of protein and quite a bit of carbs(if you don't eat enough carbs your body will use protein for energy instead of building muscle). I don't know what it is, sleep is like a drug for me, i love it so much, but sleeping that much gets in the way of my life. I will probably make an appointment with the Dr. soon and talk to him about this, hopefully it will get resolved. But as of now i need to go through final projects and final exams in college with the problem of wanting to sleep all day every day! Lol, in hs i loved sleep but i could stay up if i really needed to, now that i'm older i can't really anymore, hmm. Well, if this gets resolved i'll let ya know and maybe it can be fixed for you too.
     
  4. katherine

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    It might be a good idea having a word with a doctor so they can do some tests to make sure that your body isn't buggered up in some way thats causing you to be tired. Whilst most medical causes of tiredness are down to diet, it can be a symptom of various more serious problems, so its worth it to put you mind at ease.
    I've been quite tired lately, but I think this is mainly down to having an uncomfortable old bed which I need to replace, that I've been far busier than usual for the last few weeks, and also that I'm coming down with a cold or something, which as I havn't had one for a month or two not wouldn't suprise me :rolleyes: .
     
  5. Andy73

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    Another major cause of tiredness, mostly overlooked by mainstream medicine, is misalignments of the cervical spine and especially C1 the atlas.
     
  6. Oh So strangE indeeD

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    A good thing to eat in the morning (well..this works for me) is something with a sharp taste. Like a grapefruit half, or an orange...the citrus blast wakes me up. A good diet is pretty key in how much energy you have. Also, do you wake up horribly groggy and does it stick with you for the entire day? You could be waking up in a deep sleep phase. You go in and out of deep and light sleep throughout the night; maybe youre waking up in a deep sleep. I'd try adjusting your sleep hours a bit and see if that helps at all. I've had sleep problems since I was 6, and this is the stuff that usually helps me...
     
  7. mick_jagger_is_so_hi

    mick_jagger_is_so_hi Member

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    Is that true?? It makes sense. So how do you know when you are going through a light phase in your sleep and adjust your sleeping hours accordenly??
     
  8. beachbum7

    beachbum7 Lookin' for any fun

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    Mick_jagger, I'm not on any kind of medication. But when I was younger (and living at home), occasionally, I took pills in the morning. I don't know if I'd call them medication. Actually, my Mom knows more about what I took than I do.

    Today, I didn't work, and there were a couple of stretches when I felt very, very tired (I was outta my apartment for most of the day, so there weren't any good times for me to take a nap). I feel good now. I was thinking that I haven't gotten as much sleep as I had recently. Since I've gotten the 'net on my computer, I've usually gone to sleep later than I have been, and that may be affecting me.

    I haven't seen a doctor yet. There are English-speaking doctors I could see, and hopefully one of them could help me. If I still feel like I'm having problems with fatigue in a week, I may see a doctor.

    Oh_So_Strange, I don't think I feel terribly groggy when I wake up. I feel a little tired, but maybe not groggy. But I will pay closer attention to how I feel when I wake up in the next few days.

     
  9. hepper

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    have you ever been tested for hepatitis, Tiredness is just one of the signs.
     
  10. TripAmerika

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    I used to be chronically fatigued until I started taking a drug called Provigil. You may want to ask your doctor about that one.
     
  11. beachbum7

    beachbum7 Lookin' for any fun

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    I've never been tested for hepatitis. I'm also not familiar with Provigil.

    There were moments at work today that I felt a bit tired. But overall, I felt better than I had in the last few days. I told one of my roomates that I hadn't been getting as good of sleep I want. And he told asked something I hadn't thought of. He asked if I closed the curtains when I sleep. I said no - my curtains are always open. He told me I should close my curtains because when the sun shines through the window that could have some affect on my sleep (if that makes any sense to you). I tried sleeping with my windows closed last night. I don't know if that had any effect on my sleep.

    But I am thinking about ways to revamp my diet, and your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
     
  12. Shakra

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    You really should just go see a Doctor; there are many things that could cause tiredness, from lifestyle (diet, exercise, sleeping patterns) to physical (thyroid problems, diabetes, serotonin or other hormonal or neurotransmitter levels that could be the cause of M.E. (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis) or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) - although the later two are unlikely - or any number of metabolic or immune disorders) and mental disorders (stress, depression, anxiety). Really the list is endless.

    There is no way really for you to find out what is causing the tiredness and while it may not be a physical disorder (that would include sleep apnoea - which basically means 'not or without breathing' whilst sleeping) to be on the safe side and to start to narrow down right away what is causing the tiredness your first port of call should be a Doctor.

    Sleeping with your curtains open might affect your sleep (the reason it would affect your sleep is due to the effect of the sunlight hitting your eye, which may then cause your pineal gland - a small gland in your brain - to reduce it's production of melatonin - a hormone responsible for our internal body clock and thus natural sleeping pattern etc) although you may have adapted to this, if you have always slept with your curtains open, in which case it wouldn't have much bearing on your level of tiredness.

    It may be something as simple as anaemia, as has already been suggested, which is usually caused by a lack of vitamin B12 as well as a lack of iron in the diet, but it may be something that you simply won't be able to self diagnose, it's highly unlikely to be anything serious, so you shouldn't exasperate the situation any more by worrying, but do go and see a Doctor [​IMG]. They are helpful creatures [​IMG], some are even nice people!!! [​IMG]

    This might seem like a dumb and obvious question, but do you get enough sleep at night, every night, and by that I mean at least 7 hours, and are these 7 hours at the same time every night (or at least most nights - we all like a late night on the weekends after all)? I am asking this as losing 1 or 2 hours of sleep a night, a few nights a week can really add up, and constantly changing the time you go to sleep can also affect the quality of your sleep (amongst other things).

    But anyway go see a Doctor [​IMG] and I hope you sort your tiredness problem out soon.
     
  13. beachbum7

    beachbum7 Lookin' for any fun

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    The more and more I hear from you on the hipforums the safest thing is to go the hospital, and see a doctor. I might go see one soon.

    I get about seven hours of sleep usually, and for the most part, they're at the same time. Before I got the 'net on my computer, I usually went to bed around midnight. But now, I usually go to bed around one a.m., and sometimes later. And there are nights when I get less than seven hours of sleep. Often my body wakes me up when I don't want to wake up.
     
  14. Dizzy Man

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    7 hours per night!?

    I would be a zombie if I got anything less than 8 hours' sleep each night. If you're only getting 7 and you're feeling tired then I think you definitely need to try getting more sleep! I can do the odd night with just 7 hours, but if I had 7 every night I would be seriously tired after a few days.

    I know how you feel, by the way. I feel tired and weak all the time — and I eat really well. It's been worse the past few years, and I think having shingles a couple of years ago had a lot to do with it. But I still don't really know why I'm so tired so often. It really affects my work a lot of the time.

    One thing that has helped me feel better was to cut down bread. I think I'm intolerant to wheat. First I gave up bread rolls and baguettes, then white bread, then I cut the number of slices down from 12 to about 2 per day. I feel much better now, and I don't get all the problems I used to, including swollen glands, headaches, dry throat and blocked nose. Plus I've lost a lot of my excess weight.

    But I'm still tired a lot. Doctors have been no use at all for me. None. I've seen all kinds of specialists. I saw a specialist on allergies and intolerances and she didn't think I was intolerant to bread (shows what she knows!).

    I decided that the only person who can help me is myself. What I've started doing lately is writing down every day all the food and drink I consume, all the exercise I get, when I sleep, when I shit, and how I felt throughout the day. I figure I can probably learn from it what suits me and what doesn't (and which things cause which symptoms).
     
  15. beachbum7

    beachbum7 Lookin' for any fun

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    I'll try to get more than seven hours of sleep a night. Unfortunately, I didn't do that last night because I was out until 1:30, and I have to get up early for work. I like sleeping, but I find it very difficult to sleep in (when I can). Maybe it possible that maybe I'm not getting enough sleep.
     
  16. Shakra

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    Lol I am a Nurse so I guess I am supposed to tell people to go see a Doctor [​IMG]
     
  17. Epiphany

    Epiphany Copacetic

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    Have the carbs before you go to the gym for energy (but make it whole wheat and grains instead of refined white flour) and then when you get home, eat some protein. Protein is essential, especially after any weight lifting. Also, try to stay away from having a lot of sugar and caffeine. Hope you feel better!
     
  18. Bilby

    Bilby Lifetime Supporter and Freerangertarian Super Moderator

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    I forgot.Too much iron will give you symptoms similar to not having enough.It is a question of dosage. If I eat a fair amount of lamb , I don't like chocolate- it is my body telling me that I have enough.When I am down on iron , I do like the taste of chocolate.The human body is a clever thing.Why is margarine so unappatising?
    If you are not a big meat eater then a bit chocolate might be good for you.The bio-availablity of iron in vegetables can be increased by drinking orange juice with your meal.
     
  19. beachbum7

    beachbum7 Lookin' for any fun

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    Actually, the last two days, I haven't felt super tired. I do love chocolate, but I've eaten less of it since I've been in Japan. Finding chocolate is no problem, but for whatever reason, I haven't eaten as much of it as I should.
     
  20. Cornball1

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    Have you considered how your chi is flowing? I had the same problem then just applied a few feng shui principles and started feeling and sleeping better.

    Another thing to try would be some Tai Chi or Qigong. They can help getting your bodys chi flowing better.

    http://chinese.astrology.com/fengshui.html
     

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