All of you vacs mamas.

First of all, I LOVE MY BABY more than anything under the sun. What I decide to do for or with her medically is my business. It doesn't mean I love her any less that I decided to vaccinate. It's a decision her father and I come to after talking about it. So, don't ever question my love for my daughter.

But, you DID criticize every parent that vaccinates. If you didn't mean for it to sound like that, you should reword your post.
I know the risks for getting them, and I know the risks for not getting them.
It's none of YOUR business how anyone else raises their children. When you get kids of your own, YOU decide what's best for THEM.
I vaccinated because it's a personal choice. Sure, I could please most everyone on this forum and not vaccinate, but that'd make me uncomfortable.

Again, you question the love of the vaccinating parent. A lot of things can destroy a body. I formula feed, are you going to hate on parents that do that too, because it's not natural and isn't as healthy for a child? It's called personal choice. No, my baby can't decide what goes in her body. That's why I'M her mama and I make the choices I find best suited.

 

first of all, I have 2 kids. Secondly, you never even answered the question, you just got defensive.....

 

If your comfortable with vaccinations, obviously something lead you to that...............why can't you tell me why you think its a good idea without being ridiculously defensive and repetitive?

 

Hey Rob, didn't you know high levels of mercury are good for a baby's developing brain and nervous system?

I am being sarcastic, obviously.

 

I didn't think you were not loving the kids...just passing a judgment that it is not your place to do, it is the mum and dads place and although you can choose to do so or not do so for your kid I don't see why you want to press your opinion on someone else.

I don't think all vaccines are good by the way...the doc put me off the chicken pox one herself by pointing out that kids still get it anyhow despite being immunised and that just when the virus can cause the most damage the vaccine wears off and they can get it again (when they are teens) and the one against diahrea is just plain silly as far as I am concerned....but then I am not a mother in a third world country where te living conditions might mean that this actually means the difference between life and death for my child....however I don't have a problem with the others as even though I got all those poxes when I was a kid I don't really see the point for my little one doing so too as, as far as I have read it is a minority of people that suffer ill effects from the injections and the risk of complications from the illness itself is higher than the risk from the injection. This is of course a hotly debated topic but I am more inclined to agree with the theory that vaccinated children create a safety net around unvaccinated kids and that it is possible that kids who react to vaccines may have reacted to the illness itself if it had happened to strike...which when I was a kid it did, everyone got them and they swept through the community. Polio when my mother was a child and her cousins have lived with the physical consequences of that and I choose to try and give my daughter a chance at not living her life with those disabilities...measles, mumps, rubella, well we all got them and we were lucky but there were kids where I grew up that died from them so I don't consider them particularly harmless or like a cold that can have resistance built up to them naturally.
It s a complex topic and one I am not as informed as I would like to be but I don't regard myself as an expert on vaccines and I have a reasonable idea that they are not a particularly nice product that I would want to deal with everyday however I like you weigh up the risks and choices and make my decision and you make yours...which one is right I don't think we can both know in our lifetimes but at least we are part of finding the answers to that question and help my very genki daughter make her own decision regarding her own children!

 

Well I didn't mean to sound like I was passing judgement, I apologize for that, I just really wanted to know what would lead someone down that path. Thank you very much for taking the time to answer me, and trying to help me to understand what would lead someone to that side of the fence, also thank you for not acting ridiculously defensive.

 

You said it, moon.


I don't have kids, but I take issue with anyone of any opinion who actually has the audacity to question someone's love for their child. My mother had me vaccinated against everything, so gee, I guess she doesn't really love me.

I'm personally mixed on the vaccination issue. I don't think all of them are necessary (esp chicken pox), but what alot of people are forgetting is that it's because of vaccinations that they now have a reasonable choice not to vaccinate.

For example, it's easy to decide not to vaccinate against small pox now, because it's the one disease we've successfully eradicated (except in certain labs). 100 years ago, would you really not want to vaccinate against it? You still could have decided against it, but if people around you were dropping like flies, I'd imagine the decision would have been more difficult. And not all vaccinations have mercury in them. The only reason vaccines even have all that extra stuff in them is because the virus needs a protein to attach itself to in order to make an impression on the antibodies.

Look, I don't like bush, but I would never question his love for his daughters. I don't like Britney Spears, but I would never question her love for her sons. I don't agree with alot of people, but I would never, ever, ever question anyone's love for their kids. That's one territory you don't mess with. I would never question a parent's love for their kids if they chose not to vaccinate, so why is it ok for you to do so? Sorry, but as soon as you start pretending your opinion means you love your kids more, your argument loses all merit in my book.

 

Actually, those diseases were already on a strong decline before their vaccines were mass-produced. Better hygiene, water treatment, better access to health care, better medical knowledge, and better diets all contributed as well. Vaccines got the glory for what was a long-time-coming joint-effort of so many other things.

I don't think I'm torn on this issue, like some other mothers, but I do think that it was offensive to question another person's love for their child because of their vaxing choices. While I don't agree with Moon about her choice to vaccinate, I'll defend it. Any person that researches fully (not just talking to a doctor) and questions themselves truly before handing down such a decision obviously loves their children, whether or not you agree.

Moon, I know you want to continue to vaccinate, but why not look into spreading out the rest of the shots one at a time once a month, after the knots go away? It sounds scary enough, to me anyway, to warrant keeping her without vaxes for just a little while. I'm not saying stop them, but space them out so you see what's causing those knots. *hugs to you and Gums*

 

This thread is full of oversensitivity, frankly i'm quite stunned my comments were taken so out of context........no matter, I just wanted to know the answer to what should be a very simple question, no need to bash me, judge me, and take my words to mean something they do not, don't answer the question if it is so offensive to you......this is flat out ridiculous and immature.

 

Personally, I didn't take what Rob said as an attack on Moonflower's love for her child. It's pretty obvious that she loves sweet Alexis very much. It IS a matter of personal choice (vaxing or not)-he wasn't questioning her love, but her reason for vaxing. The wording is tricky and can be easily misunderstood.


That aside, how is the girlie? Have her knots gotten better?

 

I did answer you, Rob. PERSONAL CHOICE. Learn to read.

Alexis is fabulous. Her knots are finally gone and she's been her happy bouncy self for a few days. And, she LOVES the Easter bunny. She saw him in Wal-Mart.

 

It's a shame you have to be so ignorant, intolerant and angry towards me, i'm done posting in this thread, continue to do what you do, although you will never make me, or anyone else who thinks on a larger scale buy into that personal choice myth, that's a great fallacy surrounding alot of the atrocities practiced on planet earth........far too many decisions based in "personal choice" and not enough based on the foundations of morality and research. I am sorry that your narrowminded view caused you to take such offense to my question, I NEVER questioned your love for your child (as i've already stated) and I NEVER considered you a bad parent.........all I ever wanted to know was what research led you to that decision.

 

I'm glad you'll not be posting here. Nothing you said answered my question in the first place. If I wanted to explain why I vax, I'd start a thread about it.
I think on a larger scale. I just think differently than you.
I'm not narrowminded in any way, shape, or form. I choose to vax my baby....big deal. It's none of your business. That's why I'm her mommy....not you.
I don't need to provide you with any research for my decisions. It's one that her FATHER AND I made together in what we believe is best for OUR child.