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Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by RELAYER, Jan 30, 2009.

  1. Transformative

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    Hey everyone im preparing to trip on lsd my first time next weekend, im getting it this weekend. i have to say im really nervous about this, and i do have depression but its sort of behind me now, im kind of in a emotionless numb state now.

    should one tab be enough for me to have visuals and an overall good trip? Im going to have incese burning, in good lighting, with some music going, like the zombies or grateful dead.

    ill try to meditate before hand and get myself into an open mindset about this in the hope that i wont have a bad trip. My only drug experiences are marijuana and salvia divinorum. when i did salvia i smoked a whole bowl of 20x, and it was pretty intense. the guy doesnt know how many micrograms are in each tab but he says its lab acid. He ays its double dropped tabs and its "sunshine acid" whats sunshine acid? and is double dropped tabs too much for a first timer's trip?

    thanks! :D
     
  2. eatlysergicacid

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    You're probably just getting regular acid. Whenever anyone says double dipped or dropped or whatever it's just a load of crap to make it sound better. Depending on the strength of the hits you get you could get a mild to strong trip off of one hit. One or two hits is generally a good range for your first time. Your setting sounds good. You may want to include a trip sitter if you know someone who's experienced enough with tripping. There's no such thing as a bad trip as long as you learn something from it. You don't want to focus on your depression while your tripping, but sometimes LSD can bring out issues that you have with yourself and make you face them, which can be helpful in overcoming those issues. You should do some research on this site and erowid and learn as much as you can about LSD before you try it, as you should for any drug. Just keep an open mind and have a good time and welcome to an entirely new world.
     
  3. LoveTheDeadHateUsernames

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  4. Ramune

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    Hello all, I've never had a legitimate experience with drugs; aide from caffeine I've never drank, smoked etc. I want to try LSD, DMT, and MDMA, I don't know anyone in person who has tried any of them, that being said I have a few questions. First and foremost, I have bouts of depression but I do not believe I am cynically depressed, I do however believe that my current mental state is what allows me to write. I like writing and it is something I plan on pursuing, however I do not want these experiences to radically alter my perception as some claim they can. I want to keep writing the way I do with the majority of my outlook intact, do you think experiences with these drugs could impact my writing ability?

    I'll try them each on separate occasions, but what order should I try them in?
    For each drug, should I have people around, if so how many, what type of people ie people I know who do some drugs like weed or nonusing friends?

    where should I be at when taking each of them?

    I've read a lot about DMT and LSD and I'm trying not to get any preconceived notions, in general to avoid lackluster experiences. Is there any other advice you'd like to give?

    This video is kind of what made me think about the order of trying things <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYDgmpiE-U0" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYDgmpiE-U0</a> he mentions that after trying LSD then trying DMT then doing LSD again, the experience was much different the second time around, should I try to allow myself the ability to do this?
    If i do it would mean holding on to the drugs which I feel could be a safety issue, is it an issue to hold on to these for a little bit (out of light I know the acid decays)?

    Also I've looked up dosing and such, but I'm not sure how much of each drug to buy. Granted, I can only buy what's available, but still should I get enough to have multiple trips?

    And should I do dual doses of LSD at a later time? Same questions apply to MDMA as well, but I'm a bit leery on it since I believe there are possibilities of negative physical effects such as serotonin poisoning. I'm also an introvert, what types of things should I consider with MDMA?

    I will probably get a testing kit for it just for my own peace of mind.

    That's all I have for now, thanks to anyone who can help me out.
     
  5. Mr.Writer

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    Your post asks a lot of questions and makes a lot of statements so I'm going to break it down.

    I think you should definitely go buy a bottle of nice wine or liquor or some beers and get very drunk, just so you can experience a chemically altered state of mind period.

    I think you mean clinically depressed. How old are you?

    You are conflating two concepts, that while very intertwined, are still their own seperate behemoths. First of all, saying you want to take LSD but that you don't want the experience to alter your outlook is like saying you want to go visit Nepal but you don't want the experience to radically change your current location on earth. It just doesn't make sense. If you're going to take a powerful psychedelic like LSD, you are taking it for the reason of altering your outlook. That is what it is for! :) If you are afraid of having your outlook changed, then LSD is not for you, you should just stay in your room all day and never do acid, never get drunk, never meet new people, never do anything ever again.

    You need to do a lot of basic research. Watch these two documentaries:

    [ame=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccMLw_iQ7XU]National Geographic's Inside LSD

    [ame=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtogEfQF6l8]LSD : The Beyond Within

    The first thing you will notice is that LSD has incredible effects on creativity, massive changes in worldview are associated with it, and in general it is one of the most significant life events possible to consciously choose to experience.

    Ultimately it doesn't really matter. However, if you want to order them by least intense to most intense, then the order is MDMA, LSD, DMT.

    With each drug you should be a in a safe environment with no responsibilities the day you take them or the next day. Ideally you should be able to transition between indoors and outdoors at will, but staying inside for the whole time or having a safe secluded area outdoors would be fine too. You don't need anybody around, although if you have a good friend you can share the experiences with it will make them that much richer. A trip sitter is often recommended for DMT because of how quickly it affects you and the danger of burning yourself with a hot vaporizer/pipe. One could say that the nature of MDMA is such that it is a waste to take alone. It is the ultimate social lubricant and binder.

    The only way you are going to have a lackluster experience is if your product is weak. Otherwise I can guarantee you that anything you think you know about them is not even 1% as amazing as they truly are. My advice when you finally do get to trip is to close your eyes, relax, and float downstream. Lay down all thoughts, surrender.

    After a life changing psychedelic experience every experience is going to be different afterwards, because you are different. These chemicals are quite stable, just keep them in a cool, airtight container in the dark and they will last you your whole life.

    On the day that you actually do find a source for MDMA, LSD, and DMT (and believe me you having never even had a beer or knowing anyone who's ever done them means this is a loooooong ways away), you should definitely buy more than one dose. For one, you save money when buying bulk, and for two, sources for these things don't grow on trees, so it's good to stock up. You'd want to grab somewhere around 1g of MDMA, 500mg-1g DMT, and 10-25 hits of LSD.

    Dual doses? You mean like two hits at once? That is likely the dose you would want to do your first time. Most acid is fairly weak these days, you need several hits of it for a good trip. Sometimes you get lucky and get very potent stuff. Start small with each substance and work up.
     
  6. Ramune

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    EDIT: For some reason, every time I edit this into paragraphs, my formatting is continually disregarded. Sorry that it makes it an unreadable wall of text. Thank you for replying, about the drunk thing; I've never wanted to experience that type of alteration. Like anyone, I've been around drunken people I've seen how they act, what they do, listened to how they feel, and heard their experiences and based on all of that I personally have no desire to experience it. Same goes for cannabis or opiates, etc. Be careful how you word things, just because I haven't done drugs of any sort and made a typo on a forum doesn't mean that I'm a childish shut in. I say this without care as more of a reminder; you lose credibility and respect when you make remarks like that. I'm not sure that I properly conveyed my concern with alteration of perception, partly, perhaps, because I haven't experienced it and therefore can't relate to how it "changes" people. Cumulative experience is what makes up who are as individuals so obviously experiencing LSD would change that to an extent, but I don't want that experience to become the focal point of my creativity. I don't want to have to rely on external things, such as drugs, in order to think or create. I just want to experience it, and, sure, I want to creatively share that experience, but my current style is somewhat refined and developed from a combination of research, creativity, logic and perception (I'm not egotistical, really). In regard to those last two points, and I say this as simply matter of fact as possible, I can get nearly anything in any amount at any time provided I have the cash. I also have a very good reason to believe that the purity and dosage amount will be accurate if/when I buy so I guess I was asking more of what is a good first time dosage for each?
     
  7. MeatyMushroom

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    You won't need to be relying on drugs for your creativity.. but they definitely help. Even after the trip ideas just seem to form so well and just slot in to place.. fades though, but you've still left some new neurological pathways open so some of that shit sticks.

    Dose 100-200mg MDMA for your first,
    1-3 tabs for acid.. although there's a big difference in the trip, for the first time you're gonna be out of it either way so you won't know how far you've gone - and the general trend has been higher doses = much more enjoyable/worthwhile than being scary and fucked up. Just don't be a dumbass and dose somewhere you don't like.
    No idea on the DMT, never had it :p
     
  8. eggsprog

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    since you don't know anyone who has used any of these drugs, you should be very careful purchasing illegal drugs online.
     
  9. Ramune

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    Thanks for the replies so far, and thanks for the vids Writer, they're greatly informative. Can you be more specific about what i should be careful of and how to be careful?
     
  10. Ramune

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    I also wanted to ask, how does one take blotter acid? I mean the idea of eating paper reminds me of elementary school kids' antics, not to mention it's got ink and acid on it as well. Do you chew on it, suck on it, swallow it immediately or at all?
     
  11. hahaha04

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    You can either stick it under your tongue, let it sit on your tongue, or swallow it. Normally I let it sit on my tongue for a few minutes (3-5), then i swallow it. Dont worry about the ink, not going to hurt you in that small amount.

    When do you plan on doing any of these shenanigans?
     
  12. Ramune

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    Well, it might be very soon, or sometime this year. It depends on whether or not I can actually decide on trying it. Why do you ask? I have plenty of inspiration and creativity without drugs. My concern is the possibility of requiring drugs for further creative stimulation after having tried them. I don't mind the whole change of perspective, but I don't want to rely on any one thing for inspiration. Also, will I be able to think while on LSD? Will I be able to go outside if I want to, or something like that? Odd question, but as it is now, I'm new to all drugs aside from casual caffeine use.
     
  13. eatlysergicacid

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    That's kind of a funny question to someone who's done LSD. The answer is yes. You will be able to think. You will not be able to avoid thinking. You'll likely spend a good deal of time just sitting and thinking about things, but yes you will be able to go outside. A low to medium dose of LSD is very controllable.
     
  14. Mr.Writer

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    An LSD trip is really an 8-12 hour long think :)

    Not that you'll be able to think about everything you want to though. You can't take a good dose and sit down to do your taxes, or other tasks that require a lot of mental coordination and memory work. There is an inebriation, a distance from sober thinking. It's quite different. Quite hard to describe to someone who's never even been drunk ;)

    Going outside is damn near necessary on LSD. "inside" is what is constructed for us by society. LSD takes you to your primal human roots, and those reside "outside". You're not going to NEED LSD to be creative after taking it. But you are likely to want the experience again. Not because its addictive, but because its beautiful and educational.
     
  15. eatlysergicacid

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    Challenge accepted :2thumbsup: :D

    I'm gonna be hearing from the IRS.
     
  16. Ramune

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    So I'm pretty sure I'll be trying LSD first. I will then probably try MDMA in an exploratory controlled sense, I've read that it can open the mind and create profound experiences as well, and then also try it in a recreational sense at a social event. To be honest MDMA is the only drug I've ever truly considered about taking for recreation. My problem lies with DMT. I've never smoked anything before so I don't think I would do well with any of the homemade vaporizing devices, so that leads me to think about purchasing a vaporizing pipe. My problem is that the cost of the pipe basically doubles the cost of trying the drug. I don't know how many times I'll use the drug (I'll probably use it all if I have good experiences, unless friends want to try some), but I'm not sure it would be worth spending the money for just a few sessions. Thoughts?
     
  17. Mr.Writer

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    Why don't you first acquire these substances and then worry about whether or not you want to invest in the hardware to ingest some of them. Maybe once you've done LSD you will be able to make up your mind on whether it is worth it to invest a little money in a device to smoke/vape DMT.
     
  18. Thekarthika

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    Would it be a bad idea to take it on a weekend during the school semester? I know pot usually clouds my mind for a few weeks if I do enough of it and my grades start to suffer.

    Thanks!
     
  19. guerillabedlam

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    It's not a bad idea, but you will probably want the day following the trip free from school and demanding responsibilities.

    LSD has very rapid tolerance so it's difficult to use it daily or as frequently as you may pot so you probably won't have a clouded mind in the same way but there are some individuals who burn out from LSD which could have adverse effects. Treat LSD with respect and give time between uses and you'll be fine.
     
  20. OhMyFluttershy

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    Hey this is my first post, and and had a few questions about acid. I have done a ton of research and consider myself very well read, but I feel my situation is somewhat unique. I am not too worried about a bad trip, I am planning on camping with good friends away from my normal life, and I have a great mindset. My only concern is that I am very inexperienced with drugs, having only smoked weed 4 or 5 times. The first time I did a lot and kinda struggled with it, but I have recently started enjoying it much more. I feel like my brain is made to work with drugs and I feel like I enjoy my high and just life in general more than 99% of the worlds population. Probably due to my self deemed higher level of thinking and greater ability to appreciate the world and its intricacies to the fullest.

    Anyway I am very excited to try acid, but there is a part of me that feels I am not ready for it yet. Not in the sense that I would have a bad trip, but just that I would kind of spoil the experience for myself. Weed is still incredibly entertaining for me, more so than I could ever imagine was possible in this life. To the point were I only smoke when I have an exceptional setting planned to guarentee I make the most of my high. I don't want it to become an everyday thing I do because I am bored.

    There is a part of me that wants to work my way up slowly so the first experience will be the best it can. I wouldn't want to lose my virginity before ever kissing a girl. Thoughts?
     

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