aliens & their message

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This small toy like model, about 2 in length and made of gold, was found in a tomb in Colombia. When first discovered it was called a zoomorph (animal looking). The object is on display in the Smithsonian Institute in Washington D.C. Six other similar objects have been found in discovered in Venezuela and Peru, and Costa Rica. Colombia Jet

 

Cool, I knew it was one of them lol. And they made one with a jet engine and it flew too, that's cool.

I like how back then they clearly knew how to draw and sculpt animals, if they wanted to paint an animal, they did but then you have all these anolomies (that doesn't sound right?) and the mainstream consensus is "oh it must be some sort of insect" lol. These people built cities of pyramids into perfect alignment with the stars, if they wanted to sculpt an insect, they'd had sculpted a bloody insect. That right there, is a representation of an aircraft.

 

I agree Irminsul. The ancients were both very productive and imaginative.

 

And then they paint all these to scale humans and and some larger beings with elongated skulls and mainstream history says "oh that must be a representation of their king" lol. Well umm no, they knew how to draw people. They're right there, they're the humans. The larger beings with funny heads, they're not humans. It's like pretty obvious lol.

And then this one. We can't even replicate their architecture with as much accuracy but when you ask a historian if maybe someone from space helped like in the paintings they say.. "nahh they dunno what they're talking about".

 

You could be absolutely right, but If I discovered that ancient artifact in Columbia my first thought would have been “What a cool looking moth fashioned out of gold”




You and your pal Erich von Daniken

 

I think I saw this on In Search Of when I was a kid. It might have been another show though. I was always fascinated by things like this...like the Nazca Desert drawings.

 

Should've gone to specsavers.

 

I have massively enjoyed von Danikens books when I was about 15. Only a few years before the internet fully developed. I can really say he's taking it too far too many times.

Such a statue could be an insect or a kite, there's no good reason to conclude it has got to be a depiction of an airplane forged by extraterrestrials, only if one really wants it to be.
The helicopter hieroglyph is an excellent example of how pseudoscientists ignore the 'boring' reality and go with the unlikely and unrealistic conclusion not because its the most logical or sensible, but because they want it to be like that.

 

Yeah all those insects and moths have tail fins.

Lol.

Research teams: these things fly propeller or jet engine.

Debunkers: it's just a moth with aero and tail fins.

Should have gone to specsavers.

 

"The Gish Gallop is the fallacious debate tactic of drowning your opponent in a flood of individually-weak arguments in order to prevent rebuttal of the whole argument collection without great effort. The Gish Gallop is a conveyor belt-fed version of the on the spot fallacy, as it's unreasonable for anyone to have a well-composed answer immediately available to every argument present in the Gallop. The Gish Gallop is named after creationist Duane Gish, who often abused it."

 

Sounds like science.

 

Hello darkness, my old friend... the soouund of science :-D

 

Well one things for sure, the plane flys.

I say again, a culture that built a city out of pyramids aligned with the stars would have build a model moth or insect if they wanted to. What they did do however, was create the actual basis for modern aeroplanes.

 

As I have already mentioned in this thread, I read Chariots of the Gods. I found it interesting, I assume it had more of an impact at the time. But Irm talks about "faith" in science for those who put trust in professial scientists, if you want to talk about misplaced "faith" in science, Daniken exihibits it in that book. One of the last chapters I recall him predicting that we either colonize the moon, have astronauts on Mars or maybe it was both by the mid-1980's.

 

Yeah, but to be fair: lots of people thought that we would be further in space colonisation by now. Also a lot of credible scientists. I think I would have as well But yeah, hopeful predictions.

 

For the record I have never read a Daniken book nor subscribe to any of his theories because I don't know what they are, so if we haven't made it to the moon for colonisation by 1980 that has no reflection on my faith in science or aliens. Whatever he thought was his thoughts. I wasn't even born yet lol.

 

He's one of the main features on Ancient Aliens

 

Yeah I know that, but I've never read any of his books nor know what his books are about. I've never heard him talk about "chariots of the gods" on ancient Aliens, he just has maybe a 1 minute footage time over the episode.

All I know is he probably believes that the depicted chariots in ancient art are representations of air vehicles.

Me talking about faith in science is really just to solidify that science is a religion and I've demonstrated that a few times over the past week. Science is all about bridging the gap of uncertainties by trying to understand why things are the way they are, like God and religion. It's been said many times in this thread that mythology is the ancients way of making sense of things. Well, no matter how many different ways you want to say it, that's exactly what science does lol. It tries to answer the questions we want to know the answers too, yet it's all theoretical, just like God.

 

Lol Sitchkin is from the same time. Isn't that the wonderful thing of books I think their work is even found in the same place in stuff like libraries, bookstores and online stores

 

Sitchin decyphered Sumerian. That's why I read his stuff. He was classified as the world's most knowledgeable person in Sumerian language and nobody argued until what he wrote came into the spotlight, then all of a sudden he "doesn't know what he's talking about" regardless of the fact that after this uproar he was still was the one person that could correctly read Sumerian.

All the things people complain about with Sitchin are retarded things anyway like "is he talking about a God or a planet" or "apparently" a mistranslated word that has no bearing on the outcome of the stories.

So I tend to take his work at face value because he was genuinely the world's leading person on that literature and it still holds ground. Only more literature gets written now based on his original work. If he was completely fictitious his work would stop being used by scientists today, but it's not being stopped because his work is still the most accurate.

Most of the Sitchin debunking site are just random people who say "I've studied ancient literature and I think he got this word wrong" or they interpret a sentence their own way and just assume they're right but most of these people don't have diplomas in ancient language nor have done the language test Sitchin was asked to do where he correctly translated Sumerian the most accurately out of the people that said he was wrong.

So I'm going to take the dudes books more seriously than some cheap ass free website some "language expert" created to debunk his work when that person isn't as accurate as Sitchin is/was. I assume he's dead now ~shrug~