aliens & their message

Discussion in 'Weird, Bizarre and Mysterious' started by cindywarble, Mar 31, 2019.

  1. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Which facts and evidence regarding aliens do you mean?
    Most sensible people acknowledge not everything is explained/explainable.
    Even if people view it as a radical idea (and sure, many do), it seems most opposition comes from it being put as fact when its not. A lot of people seem ok with others considering the possibility, and also think themselves it has merit as a possibility, but when proposed as the most certain theory and that others who go with the current scientific consensus are in some kind of denial or something... then obviously people are gonna react very critical.
     
  2. There is plenty of solid evidence. Just do the research.

    The fact that there are things going on we do not understand is perfectly well evidenced, though. Just look at the double slit experiment. It's not a wild leap of faith to suggest maybe even that isn't reality at it's most profound. It's not even a huge leap in logic to suggest the possibility that, not knowing what we don't know, we really don't understand things very well at all.
     
  3. Asmodean

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    I have emerged myself in this subject matter and have encountered no solid facts or evidence for aliens. It appears many others came to this conclusion too. Saying there's plenty is a bit easy. Can you get more specific?
     
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  5. themnax

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    "they know when you've been sleeping,
    they know when you're awake,
    they know if you've been bad or good,
    so be good for goodness sake"
     
  6. You mean you immersed yourself in it.

    I just think it takes more to convince irrational people. When you have objects on radar pulling maneuvers that would kill a human pilot, you either realize that aliens have visited Earth or you don't.

    There is considerable evidence of a technology that is alien to humanity. We are nowhere near advanced enough to create a flying saucer, yet there are eye witness accounts, photographs, and spectacular videos of real objects flying through the air.

    We are just like monkeys to the aliens, and naturally we can't see how this is possible. Unfortunately, they can. It's pretty obvious, when you think about it. And to boot, we're happy monkeys, many of us.

    So young and so tiny is the human race. We think it should just be like Star Wars where one of us rules the galaxy. But we can barely make it to the moon. We really have no clue what it is like to be a species that can construct a space ship.
     
  7. Irminsul

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    After researching a lot more into the Anunnaki I have now started to think they weren't as technilogically advanced as I once thought. Really, they are just like us except a little more advanced both in genetic make up and technology but I do not believe they are advanced enough for interstellar travel, as documented by the Sumerian tales where Alalu visits earth. The story speaks of space craft being lost in the asteroid belt and that a genuine concern for the damage and possible loss of space craft traversing through the asteroid belt. This doesn't sound like a massively advanced race of beings that could manipulate space and time to miss such obstacles. That just sounds like humans and the next part even more so because what did they do? Used missile to blow passages through the debris. How American of them. Lol.

    I also now feel they are pretty much physically like humans but they are bigger humanoids. They are taller and stronger and bigger because planet Nibiru their home planet has a much condensed gravity field so they were bigger stronger, looking and having the attributes of stronger gods.

    Another thing I have realised is that the Anunnaki political system isn't what you would think of a higher being system. They're basically just like us. They have a majority vote, winner is elected and massive fueds between rulers. When somebody wants to overthrow the leader, they must fight him in a display of hand to hand combat, winner takes all. Now that's a very Neanderthal approach to sorting out differences, yet this is what we read happens on Planet Nibiru and actually here on Earth. The gods fought with each other, jealousy and greed DNA traits fully viable in the descriptions and stories. These guys are really no better than us, but they've had a few more years on us.

    So I cannot forsee an outcome that does not allow the Anunnaki to be sole creationists. If the Anunnaki made humans, who made the Anunnaki? This race may be super human in appearance, but I also think they have very similar human traits and emotions so I do not believe they evolved from nothing, they were created too.

    If the Sumerian were the first civilisation to work under a guided political system and doctrine and law system in which to be honest sounds very similar to what we have on earth today, then could that whole system be how the Anunnaki work on their home planet too and is our way of working and thinking in this regard alien and not of "human" origin? The Sumerians, much like all of the ancient civilisations on known earth, say yes.

    I think there are far too many coincidences with what our ancient ancestors believed and the new truth we are starting to realise. If we are in fact made up from our creators in terms of genetics and DNA then of course we would easily be able achieve whatever system of critical thinking that our creators would too. That may have taken time, over 400,000 earth years is my estimation, but once we evolve to that critical period, or enhanced to that point by genetic manipulation, our creators beliefs and ways should inherrantly make sense to us to.
     
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  8. Irminsul

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    I am also currently writing a short book about the tale of the Anunnaki in a sort of timeline version in my own words. It will be a very very condensed version of what we know about the Anunnaki, why they had to come to earth and how humans came to be. I have spent the last 2 months re-reading and researching all of my books again but I will probably post them in chapters in a new thread I will make about the Anunnaki :) or if people like it and I can rewrite it without my style of writing I can sell it on Amazon hehe.
     
  9. Irminsul

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    There also appears to be other clues to the Anunnaki's similarity to us, about our creation two arguments arose whether or not it was in their right to play God and generate a new species. The argument actually made it back to the home planet of Nibiru where Anu announced that the primitive worker would go ahead but this isn't the last time we see philosophical conversations about creation and fate, so it also points in the direction that the Anunnaki weren't as "intelligent" as once thought and were prone to conscious pitfalls about morality and life.
     
  10. guerillabedlam

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    You gonna get on Ancient Aliens?
     
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    there are billions of solar systems out there, each, likely as not, have at least one of their planets in the goldylocks zone that might support life, and even sapient life, though not requiring it to look anying like anything we would recognize. it is also, exactly as far from each of them to here, as it is from here to there.

    annanuqi, where just a tribe of humans who became babalonians. they weren't giants and they weren't aliens.

    and if you give a large number of humans who know what a lever is and how to use one, and there are lot other species we don't think of as sapient who do also, a long enough time to build it, and all those spectacular ancient wonders, were built over such a long span of time, no one needs to have ripped off some alien's tool box to build them.

    none of which stops there from having been visitors from elsewhere who watched without interfering. but really that's all.
    and humans in ancient times had just as much imagination as we do now, to have made pictures of things that existed only in their minds, that they dreamed up themselves.
     
  12. Irminsul

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    I hope so. :p

    It's going to take a longer while to write up than I thought. The more I learn the more complex it all becomes. The social status of the Anunnaki and the politics between them. The one thing that's hard to fathom is the time between events, such as it takes 1 shar for Nibiru to orbit the sun so 1 shar = 3600 earth years which is hard to think that another being could live that long and more. But I guess if they've reached perfection of DNA they could have erased aging. Literally the Anunnaki beings that landed on earth are at least over half a million years old each.

    One thing I found interesting was the Anunnaki offspring born on earth were able to age and mature faster than they would have on their own planet and some of the first creation being were said to have lived for 10 shars which would equal 36,000 earth years before their DNA eventually had them die. The Anunnaki thought this was still perhaps too long for a human to live so they then made it to an average of 100 earth years.
     
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  14. Irminsul

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    There's another thing I have to correct myself on with the creation of man. I was always under the impression that the Anunnaki created one species and we have evolved to what we are today over time but this isn't correct at all. After further study it is now quite clear to me that the Anunnaki created two types of humans.

    The initial creation was of Adamu, he was black skinned and had black hair. This must have been the opposite of what the Anunnaki were for they described the creations characteristics in detail and also sent that information back to their home planet. Why make such a fuss unless this wasn't expected?

    Adamu was not working out for the Anunnaki though, although it could understand and learn it was also prone to going back to its animal instincts especially surrounding food where the Anunnaki were discovering that the Adamu were working in organised tribes to hunt food and not do any mining work.

    Enki again then went and tried to create a second species, a more intelligent species. This took a lot of time with a lot of failed attempts much like the first creation. The story details the defects including blindness, deafness and even horrific disasters when splicing ape with their own DNA. Enki decided that the prototype slave needed more Anunnaki DNA.

    The second creation was called the Adapa. This is the human version that we know today. Adapa was not as clumsy as its predecessor Adamu and had the demonstrated ability to learn complex situations. It also looked more like the Anunnaki, Adapa had white skin and blonde hair. He also possessed a foreskin which the Anunnaki must not have had. The Anunnaki decided to keep the new Adapa with a foreskin to help differentiate humans from themselves.

    What's interesting is that this is where we encounter the first racism in human history roughly 300,000 years ago. The new improved white humans were treated much more kindly and served as slaves in much more positive situations. The white humans could learn to hunt, argiculture, cook, clean, build and every other task needed to serve the Anunnaki.

    The Black humans however we considered lesser beings and were always identified as the slaves served to take the burden and toil in the gold mines of south Africa.
     
  15. So Adamu was black, and was a barbarian. But Adapa had white skin and was smart.
     
  16. Irminsul

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    I guess so if you simplify it.

    The Anunnaki appear to quite a very sexually orientated species themselves. The more that Adapa bred the more perfect in physical appearance they became.

    Adapa seemed to have two major pitfalls in comparison to their creators, they were much more submissive in nature and they were also not designed to live as long.

    Soon enough the younger Anunnaki men such as Marduk began to take the Adapa females as their brides. Their offspring were half human and half Anunnaki, the offspring lived longer than humans but were not immortal like their creators.

    An interesting political debate happens here and it is announced that although the interbreeding and marriage was permitted between the new earthling and the Anunnaki, the Anunnaki who bore children and took human partners were then exiled from their home planet Nibiru and were not allowed to return there, but the younger generation of Anunnaki easily accepted this as they were literally having too much fun being sexual with humans.

    Inanna was a young Anunnaki female who was said to be the most beautiful of all. She is regarded as Ishtar in other cultures and she was very charged sexually. She took her sexual philosophy to her new paradise in the Indus Valley. Probably a good explanation as why the Hindu also had sexual philosophy and religions based on texts like the Karma Sutra etc.
     
  17. So black people are like animals, but white people are gorgeous and intelligent?
     
  18. Irminsul

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    The last real mention of the Anunnaki was at about 2064BC in the age of the Ram, Marduk had taken complete control of earth and the other Anunnaki who had spent years warring against him fled earth. They tried to battle him with nuclear and biological weapons. The lands were destroyed and all of the remaining gods people and temples died. Somehow the devastating nuclear fallout missed Marduks area in Babylon.

    The last actual gold mining was being done in south America. The remaining gods travelled here to seek refuge from the nuclear storm in distant lands. They gathered as much gold as they could before leaving the earth with Marduk in charge.

    I haven't come across any literature that tells me what happens to Marduk, maybe I need to read Babylonian literature to bridge some gaps.

    On the plus side for the Anunnaki, the gold they refined so finely had actually worked and helped repair their atmosphere so at this point on earth the mission was considered a success and that they would leave.

    I guess the modern religious world would have followed soon after. Humans were probably confused as to who they were and why they were here. They were taught to be civilised however, so they could live.

    My assumption is humans started to build structures to connect back with their gods. They built bigger and better trying to establish this connection. Since gold was the main reason for this whole event, Gold was then considered the most sacred and priceless possession and that tradition continues today.
     
  19. Irminsul

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    Yes it was noted that the black skinned and black haired people were less intelligent and more primitive to the white skinned and blonde haired versions that followed.

    But it's also interesting to note that once the Anunnaki perfected their Adapa, they needed to create a female version for them to procreate with. The first female Adapa was the opposite of the male and she was black skinned and black haired also like the original Adamu. During procreation the mix of white and black of the Adapas seems to breed out into a more subdued pale skin tone.

    This was the human that the Anunnaki seemed most attracted to and this is the era in which the younger Anunnaki members seem to take more interest in sexual relations with humans, which outraged the commander of the earth mission, Enlil, exactly how it is told in the bible.

    The bible speaks of abominations like Goliath when interbreeding between humans and heavenly beings, God was furious with this and deemed that humanity be erased.

    Enlil was also furious at the same situation but he wasn't upset with giants and abominations, he was upset that his slave species was now consciously aware and just as intelligent as the Anunnaki were themselves and before long the population of humans vastly expanded in comparison to the Anunnaki.

    Another interesting note is that there were approximately about 600 Anunnaki astronauts that lived on earth during the gold mining peak. Enlil was obviously afraid that if the population of humans increased, they might have the ability to overthrow the Anunnaki.
     
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  20. Asmodean

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    Do you still consider the possibility the sumerian pantheon was just that: another believe system centered around multiple gods to make sense of life and the world? I mean it can at least as easily be read and explained like that, right?
     

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