Alexandira Ocasio-Cortez is a result of Trump

Discussion in 'Politics' started by unfocusedanakin, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. This is common for politicians. Look at all the petty shit they blab on endlessly about Trump. From the size of his hands to the pile of cheeseburgers he consumes it's wall to wall petty shit.

    But since it's against Trump.................

    To be fair, the Carters were really raked over the coals. "People in my line of work have been waiting for a family like the Carters to take the white house for a long time" - Johnny Carson
     
  2. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    I hate everybody. [​IMG]
     
  3. That's hate speech. You should cover your body with baby oil. And go to Dairy Queen.
     
  4. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Every president is joked about in the media. What you are describing is the typical Colbert/ Leno jokes. Clinton and Obama both got it. Bush #1 went on SNL to play himself since they roasted him so much. Trump is not liked so people joke. AOC is not liked so people joke.

    With AOC it's genuine hate and an attempt to discredit not roasting. For example the whole burger picture incident lately. The man she is with is eating it and she never said you can't eat meat at all anymore. Yet they work so hard to discredit her and act as if that is true. To say she is a hypocrite since she eats meat. As far as I know she is not vegetarian she eats animals.

    They say she does not matter yet never shut up. She has no real power outside the democratic process. People must agree with her.

    Trump does matter he is the leader of 350 million people. People don't have to agree with him he can override democracy in some ways. One is clearly more dangerous if rogue.
     
  5. You are describing the way folks split hairs in a discussion to claim high ground or make someone seem less competent. In Trump's case, it's an accident waiting to happen. Because Trump likes to quote figures. Many times he's wrong on the exact number of some issue. He'll say 40% when it's really 42% and the press will scream "LIARRRRRRRR".

    It's just soooooooo petty.

    But, it's aimed at Trump, so it's cool.
     
  6. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Why is it petty if Trump really does it on a regular basis? And sometimes he really did lie or consciously misled so yeah.. its not cool 'just because its Trump', its good because unfortunately Trump is like this.

    I'm on the other side of the ocean and even I heard people (including apparently respected republican politicians) say ludicrous things about Cortez. Like really nonsensical.
     
  7. Indeed, politics is turning into a playpen. AOC smoked one of their cronies and took his seat, so they're going to whine. It's hilarious to watch. I can't wait to see how many are primaried out. None of them have heeded Cantor's plight.
     
  8. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    If it were just an inaccuracy about two percentage points, it would be petty. Unfortunately, Trump tells whoppers, frequently.
    trump's lies - Yahoo Image Search Results
    Lyin' Donald: 101 Of Trump's Greatest Lies
    The Trump Administration's 3 Favorite Lies
    All of Donald Trump's Lies
    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/maryanngeorgantopoulos/president-trump-lie-list
    The New York Times used a full page to print 'Trump's lies' since taking office
    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2016/12/19/trumps-six-most-dangerous-lies/
     
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  9. Yes, I've seen so many interpretive lists on the issue. How is this different from any other president?

    We're being bombarded by propaganda from so many directions it's hard to determine which is the most annoying.

    But again, if it's about Trump (and it's horrible), it MUST be true. It's weird seeing so many people played so easily by this guy.
     
  10. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    She's the Sarah Palin of the DNC
     
  11. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    The real question is are these allegations true? Do you think all or most of them are made up? It becomes a matter of judging reliability of sources., and trusting what we see and hear with our own eyes. I think the evidence that Trump is a pathological liar is strong. I think your efforts to equivocate are whitewash.
     
  12. I think the line between "made up" and "accurate" has itself become fluid. However, we have in this age, science that is "settled". There are so many distortions of truth and the language created to obscure it that I doubt anyone knows the truth.
     
  13. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    How convenient.
     
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  14. For everybody it seems.
     
  15. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Cop out!
     
  16. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    socialism.gif

    Change "Redditor" to Hip Member, and this is spot on
     
  17. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    The basic distinction between socialism and state capitalism has to do with the degree of genuine democratic control of the state, and real worker control of industries. If the government operates the means of production and distribution like a capitalist enterprise, treating the workers like wage laborers with little say over operations and excluding a majority of the people from meaningful participation in the government, it's state capitalism. The USSR and Communist China probably fall into that category. What they call themselves has no relevance to what they really were/are. The same could be said of Venezuela under Maduro, since his party has no popular base and the workers don't participate in controlling the means of production, i.e., the oil wells. What would be an example of a true Socialist country by that definition? Some would say Cuba, others wouldn't .
    Is Cuba ‘State-Capitalist’? | Socialist Voice
    Likewise, Vietnam. How Socialist is Vietnam? – Otelo Carvalho – Medium
    That's why I think the distinction is tenuous. It's mostly a judgment call and matter of degree.
     
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    Balbus Senior Member

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    Wow you still flogging the Venezuelan horse?

    You do know its dead, don’t you? That it has ceased to be! Expired and gone to meet its maker! A stiff, bereft of life, pushing up the daisies! It’s kicked the bucket, shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! IT IS AN EX-HORSE

    (Apologies to Monty Python).
     
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    Sarah never went to college and despite the fantasy you live in AOC is not nearly as dumb. You need her to be or else her ideas might work. As long as you can have a meme with her smiling (odd right wing obsession with her teeth) she's not real.
     
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