Alex Pretti Shooting

Oh….I stand corrected!
Thank you, because I’ve not seen ANY news coverage on this! Plus, I was down with a severe chest cold/flu for a few days, last night being the worst.

 

Well I sure wouldn't want facts getting in the way of your ridiculous opinions.

 

Im so glad you cleared that up. Typically left wing stupid answer.

 

A shit-for-brains Fascist boot-licking primitive has disparaged my post.
Please keep me in your prayers as I attempt to heal through this difficult time.

 

What news do you listen to and who do you associate with???????
Are you a believer about Hillary Clinton running a child trafficking ring near a pizza shop and vaccines are bad??????

 

Hmmm. I’m curious if any of us are able to even get a glimpse outside of our conditioned perspective/filter.

Let’s try this: let’s say the 2024 election went the opposite way. Evil trumpler was defeated. Being the contrary baby that he is, rather than retiring to a new gaudy luxury beachside compound in (what was formerly) gaza, he decides to stick around to troll the new Harris admin and generally foment unrest.

Maybe some of the ways this unrest manifests itself in the fight against the administration’s clear and popular mandate to open thousands of new abortion clinics and hundreds of child “transition healthcare” surgery centers. These are met with widespread and well organized aggressive resistance. Well-funded too but don’t you dare ask by whom. Police forces and reserve troops are deployed to protect the workers doing their noble work to build, staff, and maintain these centers. The “resistance” adopts the tactic of actively obstructing and very aggressively provoking/challenging all of these workers and government agents from doing their jobs to support this clearly popular mandate of the Harris government.

At some point, one of these militant maga-types gets very intentionally aggressive with a group of federal law enforcement. He also is exercising his clearly constitutional right to keep and bear arms by carrying a concealed “military style” handgun and several fully loaded magazines of (probably “cop-killer) ammunition.

During the altercation, after he is seemingly disarmed by one of the agents, something causes one of the agents to panic, and respond by mag-dumping this maga-agitator in the back, thus killing him instantly. Having the benefit of ubiquitous cameras, hindsight, and not being one of the people who were actually in the situation at the time, we can easily armchair-quarterback this scene and say that the agents fucked up “bigly” and murdered this poor patriot.

Or would we? Were the political tables turned, as in the picture I’ve painted above, would we actually say that the agents were clearly in the wrong and probably shouldn’t have been there in the first place? Or would we say that they were there to enforce the laws and policies of our democratically elected administration? Would we say that they may have responded incorrectly in a moment of panic but that the “militant maga-fascist” came with “military-style weapons” with the intent to, and then did, engage aggressively and even violently with federal law enforcement? Would we not then say the outcome of his irresponsible actions was easily foreseeable and that the maga-tard got his proper reward for his stupid beliefs and actions?

Would we?

 

@Bocci. If a maga-fascist was killed in an identical situation under a democratic president then yes I would be equally outraged.

But here is the point:

Alex Pretti wasn't being overly aggressive.

This isn't even about perspective. Thinking so is just another form of deception. Many of the things that the Trump admin is doing aren't just wrong on a partisan level, they are clearly wrong to anyone with a half decent conscience that hasn't been brainwashed by right wing media. And a lot of people on the right have been brainwashed. Somehow the republicans have convinced people that it is only these radical democrats that are outraged. But actually many of the things being done by the Trump admin are outrageous. The republicans are the radical ones, and they have become professional gaslighters.

I'm not even a democrat and I don't even support getting involved in politics. But I can tell that there is something seriously wrong with the current administration. For that matter Trump isn't even a real republican. George Bush hates him. What was it that Bush said? "Bullying and prejudice in our public life sets a national tone, provides permission for cruelty and bigotry, and compromises the moral education of children,”

I mean sure federal agents have a right to defend themselves using lethal force in extreme situations. But Alex Pretti's case wasn't an extreme situation.

This isn't a partisan issue. It's about tyranny.

 

Ah yes. If only your side in complete control all would be right with the world and sound minds would always prevail.

Well, I guess there’s one example to answer my question about perceptual filters.

Btw, deconstructionist interrogatory techniques impress undergrads and those who don’t recognize them as nothing more than a rhetorical tactic. They don’t impress me and, as I’ve demonstrated in the past, I’ll not be intimidated into playing defence to your badgering. No worries. You can fall back on deleting my posts or editing and re-editing your own to make them seem less bitchy and ever more clever.

 

I agree. The federal agent in the pretti incident appears to have made a severe mistake that cost a human life. It seems to deserve a sober and thorough investigation.

It is also clearly obvious that these protests are designed to provoke an over aggressive response by law enforcement, a tactic right out of communist revolutionary histories. The goal IS to create a martyr or martyrs , around which to rally popular sentiment and claim the moral high ground.

My question was, would the folks who so easily and automatically identify this incident as an outrageous act of government violence against “peaceful” protesters, be as inclined to do so if things had occurred in an opposite sort of political environment.

 

Probably not but my example was before the whole MAGA thing when they turned so so many freedom types into total bootlickers.

I remember the "checkpoint refusal" videos from before the MAGA thing the right wing liberty people refusing to show ID to Obamas ICE roadside checkpoints.

 

My own answer is the same in either scenario:

Did he have children? If not, pin a Darwin Award on whatever is left of his chest and bury the idiot. If he did have kids, bury the idiot.

I don’t care if he’s right, left, team Edward, or Hufflepuff. He ended his life as a pawn for powers that care nothing for him except what his sacrifice may do to advance their own strategy to get/keep power.

 

Border Patrol Confrontation Videos Go Viral - ABC News


Border Patrol Checkpoint, Refusing to roll the windows down, 9 March 2014

" For more of Bressi's checkpoint videos, visit his YouTube ... Holding Border Patrol Accountable: Terry Bressi on Recording his 300+ Checkpoint Interactions.
YouTube · ReasonTV · Nov 18, 2013


I cant seem to find the classic videos but my point is this MAGA bullshit really ruined the liberty movement : ( all bootickers now

 

Agreed. Trump intentionally triggered the protests.