Alcohol vs Ritalin

They may both be in the stimulant class, but like fuck are they similar substances and more fool you for thinking as such. They have completely different chemical structures and do completely different things to the mind. Just because the label 'stimulant' implies that they both increase the rate at which the BODY works, it DOES NOT suggest that the chemical properties of caffeine and ritalin are similar in the mind.

 

Man, since when was this a conversation about the mind? I'm just saying I like ritalin and you don't have to freak out cuz I want to snort it.

 

I don't think anyone was saying caffeine and methylphenidate were the same.

metrhylphenidate is a horrible, horrible drug. IMO of course

Caffeine....well I <3 caffeine

 

I don't see why everyone has such a bad time with ritalin... I loved every part but the addiction lol.

 

Snorting Ritalin?! Lmao, now I've heard it all.
And I'm not 'freaking out' mate.
I just think that it was very poor of you to compare caffeine with ritalin and stick the notion out there that they are similar drugs on the basis of the fact that they are both stimulant drugs..

..when in ACTUAL fact, they are completely different drugs that do different things, even just to the body.

 

I loved every part of d-amphetamine. I loved how it made me paranoid, how it made me totally crazy, and of course the positive parts.

It's strange how you can grow to love all the terrible things about an addictive substance.

 

Methylphenidate is physically addictive when it's being used as a buzz drug rather than treatment, and large quantities have horrible side effects. Purely psychosis inducing if you're buzzing on these man. It'll get you sooner or later.

I'll fess up here and now, because if it wasn't for this site and some of the good people I met here (in chat, specifically), I wouldn't have gone into recovery, and for all I know, might not have survived it. It's important that there be a safe place to speak honestly about this stuff, so out goes my neck.

I used methylphenidate for years, on an occasional basis, before it reached the point of actual addiction. It was so gradual (more than five years of problem-free only-occasional usage) that I didn't know I was in trouble until I was in deep.

It wasn't all bad, but it almost makes me nauseous to think/type about it. Oh the good times. Leaving for work after a second night of zero sleep, feeling broken. Hiding stuff from family. Lying awake, trying to sleep, listening to the BLAM BLAM BLAM of my heart, sweating, shaking, knowing the awful feeling would go away with another pill, chop chop chop snort snort ahhhhhhhh. The loud audio hallucinations that I knew were not real, but which I couldn't tune out either... and the time, after about three days of no sleep, when a beautiful rainbow-colored giant spider appeared next to me, and for a moment I really thought it was real.

When I tried to get free of it, I slipped again, several times. But finally
I could get through the day. Then the dreams started, where I'd suddenly have a big stash and all was well, like the shit was even chasing me in my sleep. It was a real struggle, but now I can safely say that there's no chance I'll ever use speed again.

Addiction can be an extremely gradual process, and can sneak up on you when you least expect it, even after years of controlled and problem-free usage. I warn people away from both substances, though I do occasionally (maybe twice a year) drink alcohol. I still see lsd as nearly-harmless, along with marijuana. But those are about the only two drugs "safe enough" to use on occasion, for me at least.

 

Ha, sound JUST like me. The only difference is that I only stayed up for 3 days once and usually only stayed up a day at a time.

 

Thanks for your post SunLion;
I hope it helps to persuade the mindless fools that are indulging and think it's fun (to the extent that they're actually DEFENDING and promoting it as a recreational buzz drug) to get in to touch and sort themselves out.
Actual amphetamine sulphate is better than the effects of any prescribed medicine to control ADHD; both the buzz and the comedown (much more bearable); but it's a class of drug that should be left alone altogether.
You can carry on defending and promoting and thinking this susbstance is gold, but believe me when I tell you that one day you will face your demons.
..and it won't be pretty (of course - I speak from experience; or else I wouldn't fucking speak at all).
But hell, to those in favour of this life wrecking shit, keep using with this ignorant approach and find out the hard way what it's like to feel what seems like eternal nothingness;
then come back to this thread and read with an OPEN mind.

 

It's true. I noticed how amphetamine was literally eating away at my mental processes. It's definitely more harmful than beneficial in the ADD manner. I can't believe they prescribe that shit to kids who have no idea what it's doing to their brain. I can function much more efficiently without it. I found out the hard way that it makes you THINK you're better at everything, but in reality you're actually worse because it's just so taxing.

It was fun though. But I'm glad I don't have access to it anymore. For the sake of my mental sanity.

 

If your meaning me when you say "DEFENDING" then fuck off.... I have a personal choice as to what I would like to do. Just because it is a bad drug doesn't mean you have to be a dick because I like it.

 

Well if that's not a misleading comment, I don't know what is.
Some of your posts look like you're completely defending Ritalin in some respects, and the things you say are not exactly promoting it, but you're giving the notion that it's an alright drug to fuck with. It's not. Just because YOU may be in denial or in the early stages of addiction (or whatever reason you've got for loving it, maybe a lack of a social life and functioning mind/stable personality WITHOUT this substance) and can't see past the positive euphoria side of it, doesn't mean it won't catch you up.
It's just a matter of time and people like you don't wake up to that fact until you've had a few sessions too many and by then, of course, it's too late.
I'm not going to tell you to fuck off. Or try and directly offend YOU.
But at the same time, I am not going to fuck off anywhere mate.

Tell you what. Keep it in your diet for a stretch of a year, then get back to this thread with your viewpoint on the substance. We'll soon see opinions change... as I'm afraid talking to you about the reality of Ritalin at the moment is about as effective as talking to someone who's been blind since birth about sight.

Until then :cheers2:

 

Damn . Here we go.

 

I'm just tryna advise people to steer clear. Not having a go at pushit for indulging. Not tryna tell him how to live his life. Just tryna make him more aware of the consequences.

Peace.

 

O.K. I realize from that quote I may have exaggerated. But all I have to say is this, although I haven't done it since February I would like to do it in a scaled down level from my days of line after line.

 

Apologies for going over the top myself.

I've voiced my opinion but at the end of the day I fully comprehend the fact that everyone is of different mind and physical state so I guess if it works for you, then you can prove me wrong.

Just don't be fooled into hammering the stuff like I did. I can safely say it's one of the few areas in my life I look at with shame and regret.

(When I was there though, I guess it must of been good otherwise I probably wouldn't of been in denial to the negative side of things - but my god did I know about it after).

I'm not recommending anything; but I ask you - have you considered amphetamine? It's not half as grizzly as Ritalin. Still an absolutely foul substance, but an altogether more user friendly one.

Peace.

 

After what I went through with my addiction to ritalin I'm not so sure about other speeds, I mean... I stole my pills out of my moms purse and I don't think I could steal speed from a dealers house.

 

No you could fall into the ticker's trap instead.