Alabama Abortion Bill

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  1. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Uh....please explain. :wink:
     
  2. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    M2F trannies are being allowed to participate in women's sports. They are breaking records and destroying all the biological female athletes in these events.

    If people born without a uteris can't have an opinion on abortion. Then they shouldn't be allowed to compete in women's sports.

    If it weren't for double-standards, the left would have no standards at all.
     
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  3. Irminsul

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    Good point.

    For the record I don't know why you aren't allowed to have an opinion, or why your opinion isn't valid. It doesn't just take a woman to create a baby, so you're maleness plays a major role, which tells me you deserve an opinion even if you aren't carrying.

    If I was a boy and I knocked up a girl and she had an abortion without.my opinion, whether I wanted or didn't want, I'd say I'd feel a bit hard done by not getting to have my say, so, I think you can have yours. :)

    But that's just MY opinion.

    Unless you think abortions should be illegal. Then you can just GGF. :p
     
  4. Meliai

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    No it's not, it's a really bad point. The fact that 6 is trying sooo hard to make this thread about him and to derail the conversation shows exactly why his opinion doesnt matter here; because he'll never be affected adversely by this and has no real reason to care. He can afford to make a joke out of this.
     
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  5. Irminsul

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    We're on page 7 now though, we are at least 4 pages beyond the standard of HF sensical discussion. :p
     
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  6. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    How so?

    It's not about me, it's about letting people stand up for what they believe in regardless whether their pro-choice, pro-life, man, or woman. And not be bullied into silence.

    If you really feel this strong about this, I suggest you email the admin to have them bar all men from posting in this thread any further.
     
  7. I'm pro-choice. However, I think dead fetuses are a blight upon a civilized society and something we should actively seek to diminish. But not by creating laws that tell women what to do.

    I also think the idea that "my body, my choice" is a poor argument, because it's really not "your body" any more. You have another person inside of you. Its body belongs to it. It's not a part of "your body."

    I also just think it's hugely irresponsible for some girls to run around fucking everyone in sight and then getting abortions when they inevitably get pregnant. Mainly because a wealth of dead fetuses really does have an effect upon our collective psyche. It's a devaluation of human life, and yeah, I think some people just shouldn't be having sex. Sorry, I know it's great for your well-being and everything, but it has consequences. It's how people reproduce, whether you like it or not. If you're not ready to be a mother or father, you shouldn't be having sex.
     
  8. Meliai

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    I actually dont feel strongly about men having an opinion on this, unless they're in a position to pass laws governing female body autonomy.
    What I feel strongly about is you trying to take over this thread to use it as your platform to spout your disingenuous, mindless propaganda that you spout in every single thread.

    Edit, I dont feel particularly strongly about that either, actually, but I am going to call you out on it. You're a disingenuous political troll, not a sincere person with real opinions
     
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  9. Meliai

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    This is pretty much it. There are ways to diminish the abortion rate without making laws against it
     
  10. Irminsul

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    I look back at a time where I had an opinion about something I dunno, America something.. And I got told I'm not allowed to have an opinion or discuss because I'm not American, and I remember I felt pretty fucken annoyed by that remark... I've been waiting to secretly to fire back at that when I see them post about Europe, which I have see but meh.. I remember how I felt being told that so I don't want to make them feel like that.
     
  11. Meliai

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    To be honest I get annoyed when Europeans or whoever, anyone who isnt American, have opinions about American policies that will never affect them, but will affect me

    Same concept

    It doesnt mean you arent allowed to have an opinion but it should be expected that people who are affected by things arent going to take the opinion of someone who isnt affected very seriously. Because to the person who isnt affected, it's just an opinion..an exercise in thought. But to the person who is affected it is their life
     
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  12. soulcompromise

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    You know he pushes buttons and then leaves for a week, right? Just checking...
     
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  13. Irminsul

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    Who's to say abortions only effect a female? Sure we might carry the baby, but a male is still 50% responsible for the conception. As far as I'm concerned, the father gets an opinion too. It's his kid as well.

    Abortion is touchy. There's no sure way to tell if somebody has been through it before, maybe 6i has, fucked if I know. I know my sister has, and together as a couple with the father they decided to have an abortion. His opinion mattered.
     
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  14. Meliai

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    His opinion mattered to her. If he wanted to keep the baby and she didnt, the choice should still be hers because it's her body and he doesnt have a right to force someone to put their body through pregnancy and childbirth.

    Conception is 50/50 and parenting is 50/50 but the mental and physical toll of pregnancy and birth is 100% the person who carries the baby and gives birth
     
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  15. 6-eyed shaman

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    Abortion affects everyone regardless. Abortion could be canceling a potential genius like Albert Einstein or Bob Dylan from existing. Or a potential maniac like Charles Manson or Karl Marx. We must remember that every individual impacts society. But at the same time, how can a human life develop into becoming a game-changing genius if they are brought up by parents who were too inept, neglectful, or abusive to raise them the right way. Also, as taxpayers, we are coerced into footing the bills for subsidized abortion whether we agree with it or not.

    It’s a touchy subject, but I believe a middle ground can be found. And it won’t be achieved by silencing certain people.
     
  16. newo

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    I'm a man, I was born without a uterus and I have an opinion on abortion, that the decision should be completely up to the pregnant woman. And I don't think transsexuals should compete in women's sports. I don't see anything contradictory about this thinking.

    Your so-called double standards are mind-boggling, they indicate a wild right-wing imagination.
     
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  17. Meliai

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    Men cast every single vote for Alabama's abortion law so i think certain people's voices have been heard loud and clear.
     
  18. Irminsul

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    I do agree with that @Meliai

    Okay then, well I still think he's entitles to an opinion, whether you take anything out of it is another thing. Whether you even want to is another thing.

    I mean everyone is entitled to an opinion and we are all guilty on expressing an opinion on something that meant nothing to us.

    As for foreigners having an opinion on other politics, I see your point but at the same time I think it is good knowledge from somebody else that lives somewhere entirely different that would have formed an entirely different view, opinion or expression and I think it should be okay to express that opinion. Whether or not it affects them I don't think necessarily matters in a sense. It's kind of like genetics... I mean it's fine to keep things in house isn't it? But the benefits of splitting DNA with another race has been proven to be beneficial for the baby. So I look at it like that, sometimes, it's somebody else's opinion from a far away land that doesn't have much to do with anything that /can/ be the desirable answer or opinion or even something you had never thought of because like I said, you just haven't lived their life and lifestyle where they live. :)

    S'all good, I'm not going to argue. Just. I dunno. Take a look at me. My beliefs, my lifestyle, my interests and out takes are all heavily scrutinised, mostly only always on the internet like this forum. Should none of those opinions matter because nobody else is German, a heathen, a lesbian or into anything I am?
    If I said yes then I would be extracting someone's free right for a voice, an opinion etc. and I just can't live with myself like that, granted I'm not anybody to tell anybody how they should go about things either, but I know a few things about having a voice that's ushered away from folks with an opinion about something that has no bearing in their own lives.
     
  19. 6-eyed shaman

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    Alabama has a woman governor
     
  20. I can't really blame foreigners for talking about America. America is everyone's favorite reality TV show. It belongs to the world, really.
     
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