Aircraft IR

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by garf12, May 8, 2004.

  1. garf12

    garf12 Member

    I know that the DEA and other law enforcement agencies use helicopters and IR scanners to look for warm spots to bust growers. Anyone know how much you gotta be growing to raise suspicion. I’m pretty sure 4 or 5 plants wouldn’t be a problem.

    I keep hearing helicopters flying over my house constantly. I think it migh be Bush and his people flying in and out of his ranch cause I live really close to it. Im not worried though cause I dont grow, just intrested for future reference.
  2. Cosmo4

    Cosmo4 Member

    Man I hear helicopters flyin' all around my house this time of year's kinda of.. weird, especially if they come all close and shit. But I don't think like 4-5 plants would raise suspicion..unless you have a LOT of heat concentrated in a little space..because then they could find all that heat.
  3. reef

    reef Member

    yah, those plants should be fine. you should worry more about the increase in power used, cause those lights suck up so much energy
  4. Cosmo4

    Cosmo4 Member

    I have one small plant growing in my woods now..I check on it about once a week and that's the only time I water it.. hope it grows [​IMG]
  5. garf12

    garf12 Member

    I just recently started taking flying lessons, and when I am out flying over the country I allways look for ganja crops. haha hey you never know!
  6. Cosmo4

    Cosmo4 Member

    Hell yeah garf I wanted to take those for a while..that'd be really cool. And I hope you find a nice huge crop should start lookin in Canada though! [​IMG]
  7. Shamrock

    Shamrock Member

    if u live close, mail bush a dime every week for a month
  8. Cosmo4

    Cosmo4 Member

    A dime of pot or a dime as in $0.10?

    I don't get it.
  9. TreePhiend

    TreePhiend Member

    a dime means $10 worth of pot. A nickel means $5 worth of pot.
  10. Peace

    Peace In complete harmony.

    i dont think it matters how many plants your growing but rather how much heat your putting off. Like a 1000 watt hps would put off more heat than a 400 watt mh. Ive read that they wont detect anything below like 5000 watts or something. im not that sure.

    By the way, i have 12 plants a growin :)
  11. Cosmo4

    Cosmo4 Member

    I know that I was just asking if he meant send Bush:

    a.) A dime ($10) worth of pot.
    b.) An actual dime (like the coin) (US)
  12. garf12

    garf12 Member

    Yeah what the hell was he talking about? and how did bush even come up?
  13. porkstock41

    porkstock41 stay positive and love your life ~311

    bush came up because you said you live close to him. but i don't understand either why you would mail him a dime every week (weed or money).
  14. Do you realy think the cops are gonna use their helicopters to hunt down sum guy growing a few plants in his yard when they could be busting International drug-lords. I think some one is being a little paranoid
  15. you can never be too paranoid when it comes to our government, theyre crazy!
  16. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

    Well, if you're growing outside, they don't start searching for weed with helicopters until closer to harvest time, in the fall. So don't worry about that yet.

    If your growing inside...well, I don't know much about that so i'll stop typing now.
  17. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

    i think its far more likely that cops would be hunting down some small time grower vs. international drug-lords...they like the easier targets.
  18. well... bigger bust= more donut money for the piggies
  19. SpliffVortex

    SpliffVortex Senior Member

    The Germans produced an incredible number of Fliegerabwehrkanone or "Flak" guns to protect their troops in the field and eventually to provide a moderately effective system of radar directed Flak and searchlight systems to protect their major industrial cities, in particular those of the Ruhr valley.


    Light Flak typically consisted of heavy 12.7 mm machine guns and 20 mm towed cannons that could be set up quickly around troop and armoured groups for anti-aricraft protection. These guns were light, fast firing and quite effective against aircraft at low altitudes. They eventually were found all throughout the German held countries to provide protection for railroads, bridges, towns, important cross-roads and anywhere the Germans felt they needed protection. They made it quite dangerous to fly low over certain areas, such as coast lines in a slow bomber, as they would fire at almost anything flying in their area.

    [​IMG]Medium Flak guns were typically 37 mm towed guns operated by a large crew. They were slower firing than the 20 mm guns, but had a longer range and were more deadly. They were used in conjunction with the smaller guns or at more important military installations. Their longer range allowed them to be used in the defence of German cities. Their streams of shells could be seen rising into the bomber stream as globes of yellow or red. They were contact bursting shells only.

    [​IMG]Heavy Flak typically consisted of the highly effective and ubiquitous 88 mm cannon set up in anti-aircraft mode. By 1942 over 15,000 88 mm cannons formed the bulwark of Flak defenses for Germany arrayed in Flak belts stretching across Holland and Germany, in places 20 km thick. Many batteries were radar directed and worked cooperatively with searchlight batteries. The image above is of a radar directed battery of 88's night firing. Heavier guns of 130 mm and 150 mm were also used. The heavy Flak shells exploded at pre-set heights.

    Flak was the nightmare of bomber crews as it wasn't predictable, you couldn't see it coming and if you swerved to avoid the bursts in front, you could just as easily fly into the next set of shells. They exploded in daylight with puffs of black smoke with little red interiors, and made muffled "krumppp" sounds (due to the high levels of noise in the Allied bombers). At night they flashed quickly yellow or red and dissappeared. When one hit close the shards of shrapnel banged through the aircraft and pinged off of more solid members. With a direct hit from an 88 mm or larger shell the aircraft would stagger, sometimes stall, fill with smoke and screaming wounded airmen. Sometimes a wing would fold up and the bomber would go straight down in flames. Other times the entire aircraft would simply vanish in a dirty ball of fire, smoke and bits of plane and man. Many other times the aircraft and men would fly on, riddled with holes but still fighting. Only to have to try to land somewhere without lights, damaged under carriages, missing engines and wounded or dead crew. Often they bombed their targets only to die in a crash landing.

    Technical Details
    The 20 mm Flak guns were served by four men and were typically towed behind a vehicle. Some were set up in Flak wagons, a light tank body with four 20 mm cannons mounted on it. These were especially deadly to low flying aircraft. They fired 20 mm exploding shells up to xxxx meters at a rate of ......./min. The 37 mm medium Flak guns were served by 7 or 8 men and were towed behind a truck or the German version of a half-track. They were used to protect more valuable targets, or were in combination with light Flak guns in the field, or with heavy Flak guns in cities. They fired a 37 mm contact-exploding shell to xxxxxxxx meters at a rate of ......./min.

    The 88 mm heavy Flak guns were typically set up in semi-permanent batteries intended to provide long-term protection in a Flak belt or in a city. They could be dismounted from the battery in short order and towed away as they were designed to be mobile. When directed by radar and/or working in conjuntion with searchlights they were quite deadly, often downing more aircraft over a city than the German night fighters. They fired altitude-fused or proximity-fused shells up to 49,000 feet at 3 shells/min.
  20. SpliffVortex

    SpliffVortex Senior Member

    The 88mm anti-aircraft gun always proved effective in defending against Russian tank assaults
    The Treaty of Versailles banned Germany from possessing anti-aircraft guns, until the 1932 Geneva Disarmament Conference granted equal defensive rights with other sovereign states. This leaded to the appearance of the 88mm Flak 18 (FlugzeugAbwehrKannone) , which replaced the secretly developed 75mm Flak L/60. The 88mm Flak was originally intended exclusively for anti-aircraft defense, being used to protect important military or supply sites from air attack, but it became famous as an antitank gun. At the fronts, the Flak guns were assigned other combat tasks such as antitank use, supporting troops under pressure in ground combat, and on the coasts they they even fired on sea targets and fought off attemps to land.[​IMG][​IMG]A 88mm Flak 18 in position and ready to go in actionFlak crew wearing sheepcoats At its very first use by the Legion Kondor volunteer unit in the Spanish Civil War, the Flak gun was also used on the front lines to attack bunkers and pinpoint targets with anti-tank shells, or against enemy troops, using time-fuze shells with high exploding points. The 88mm Flak gun stood out on all fronts because of its mobility, rapid rate of fire (15 to 25 rounds per minute, depending on the crew's level of training) and number of possible uses. The Flak also played an outstanding part in penetrating the Maginot line in 1940. In this action antitank shells were fired to put the crews of many concrete bunkers and armored turrets out of action. The best range for firing on bunkers proved to be 600 to 2000 meters. [​IMG]left: 88mm Flak advancing in France. Shields were issued particularly to those units that had the task of protecting the front-line troops. The supply of ammunition is in the box on the rear of the truck. The AA guns used in ground combat were often not camouflaged since they could rely on their long-range antitank capability for protection. right: An 88mm Flak ant-aircraft battery goes to take position. The guns is towed by a 12-ton Daimler-Benz Kfz. 8 Zugkraftwagen. Fastened to the rear fender of each trailer is a cable drum on which a communication wire is rolled. It was used for connections between the command post and the guns.

    [​IMG]A Sd.Kfz. 7 8-ton halftrack tows an '88' to the next battleA crew member lowers down the rear supportIn the Western campain in May 1940 the 88mm Flak was the only weapon that penetrated the heavy French and British tank armor. One famous but desperate action of the 88mm Flak took place on 21 May 1940, when 74 British heavy tanks drove through the German line of advance near Arras. The 37mm anti-tank guns of the German regiments prove inadequate to penetrate the armor of the the British tanks, and were overrun. Fortunately for the Germans, 105mm field artillery and 88mm dual-purpose guns were deployed well in the rear to provide indirect fire and anti-aircraft support. Although not positioned specifically as an anti-tank screen, the German gun crews were able to defeat the triumphant British tank columns who were driving in open country.

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