African American, African American

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by YankNBurn, Nov 5, 2008.

  1. OldTroll

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    How can so many people be so freakin' rednecked dumb? Sheesh!



    Have fun, play safely, and accept others!
     
  2. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Listen I understand where youre coming from and I understand your point (yeah Ill make this short and sweet seeing as this is a "last posts" kind of deal) But I was never saying we shouldnt acknowledge our differences.
    I have pale skin, light hair, Im a woman, Im short and slim...but thats as far as it goes. Physicality. Now my entire point in the first place that saying "hooray-a black president. The president is black. black black hes black!"...You get the point, going on and on about the thing like it was THE most important thing and completely forgetting about the politics of the situation and the man himself...is totally counterproductive on the racism front. A complete non-victory. Totally missing the point. Its going back to square 1
    Cant you see that? Why does pointing that out automatically make me insecure or anything like that...I accept everyone, no matter what. Thats the whole fucking point
    If people constantly talked about the fact that I was white, had European "heritage", was short or had light hair, rather than my personality and merits, I would not be fucking happy, and I dont even have an important job. Were talking the PRESIDENT here. Stop being so small-minded
     
  3. verseau_miracle

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    My question was meant to ask how did racism come about (or ok, escalate and grow) in the first place? Answer: because of people obsessing over skin colour rather than the person. Just like people are doing now
     
  4. Cherea

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    It's a milestone that deserves to be acknowledged. If it wasn't a big deal to begin with, black presidents would have been a little bit more common. :confused: I mean, blacks are quintessentially American - they have contributed a very significant part of what this country is from the very beginning, and yet there has been no black presidents.

    What do you expect from people? That on the first day of this historic event, people gloss over it like nothing new has happened? :confused:

    Like I said, similarities AND differences. Likewise, you can acknowledge the historical nature of this presidency in racial relations without reducing it to race. It's race AND everything else. Not one OR the other.

    But anyway, that was not the initial topic of this thread. Yank was referring to an identity nomenclature which he feels threatened by.
     
  5. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    I agree. I just feel its been taken too far and, like Yank, Im sick of hearing it. Its been said now. I never wanted it to be glossed over. Its a comment worthy of making. But not like it was the most important part of the whole thing, and not to the point where it becomes racism in itself

    And I never saw Yank say he was threatened by the term, but maybe I missed something
    Ironically I read his initial post and saw the attitude as being far closer to REAL change and progress than any of these reports and obsessive talk about how black he is. The important part being he has a name, you know. If only the world thought like this
     
  6. Angelina31

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    Everything you have said I agree with and couldn't have said any more succintly and articulately.
     
  7. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    You have a very misguided notion of what racism is, IMO.

    Acknowledgement of differences is not racism. Racism is associating those differences with a PRACTICE of political and economic oppression.
     
  8. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    I never said acknowlegem...hey you know what, you were right about the circles thing. Ive explained myself perfectly clearly, infact stating the complete OPPOSITE only in my last post. If you dont think people saying things like "Im glad hes president because hes black" is racism then yeah, we think differently on that one. Doesnt make me misguided, mr arrogance:) Im team white youre team black, or whatever, have it that way if you like. What colour hair do you have? Im thinking of starting up a club for ginger people to discuss being ginger in
     
  9. FunHogg

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    I shall henceforth refer to myself as Scottish/Welsh American.
     
  10. Cherea

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    My nails are like a woman's. :)
     
  11. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    go team white
     
  12. YankNBurn

    YankNBurn Owner

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    Maybe becuase the terms have not been ram rodded down every source of media for the past 60 days perhaps? :rolleyes:
     
  13. YankNBurn

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    Well when a group asks for a special title or sir name perhaps they are just seking that special attention??
     
  14. ruski

    ruski Senior Member

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    i get what your saying verseau

    before the election i heard a lot of people saying, im going to vote for obama because he's black, which is just reverse racism and totally stupid in the first place. and now everyone saying he won and he's black! we are moving forward now! well actually by making such a big deal about his race when he should be voted based on his character and policies, that's a pretty big backwards step. just like you would think someone is racist for voting for a guy cos he's white, or asian, or hispanic. any way you look at it if you judge someone negatively OR positively based purely on race then you are being racist.
     
  15. YankNBurn

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    Well some of us "whites" were brought here as indentured servants torn from our families too or is this something you did not know. Some of our families were beaten for speaking thier native language by school officials, allowed to soil themselves because they could not ask to use the restroom in english, and even left outside to freeze to death in the North Dakota winters for this crime.
     
  16. YankNBurn

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    Slavery took place in Africa long before your alleged "Whites" went there. Tribal people would capture other tribes, take slaves or kill that was the option of what they did with tribes they battled with and conquered. The same took place in America before it was even known to be America and also in South America and so on, atleast get your history right before you preach pure trash!
     
  17. YankNBurn

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    I feel threatend by a society that feels the need to perpetuate racism under the hidden cloak of political correctness and further threatend that society is so ignorant to not see this.

    I was blessed being raised in an area of diverse backgrounds. I lived on tribal land, went to a public school that offered your named "whites" your named "native americans" your named "african americans" your named "asian americans" I guess your named "island people" (from the phillippine islands and surrounding area). We were the first to ever have female wrestlers in the united states that were allowed to compete in school and ever did we feel the need to seperate our names of our background we were and still are Americans.
     
  18. YankNBurn

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    I LOVE YOU! YES YES EXACTLY!
     
  19. ruski

    ruski Senior Member

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    it's funny you see black people dancing around cos he won and saying oh its so great he's black... and it's ok... because? they were treated badly? (they are not alone there). but if it were white people dancing around when the white guy won it'd be like, look at those racist white people.

    it's all the same thing.
     
  20. Angelina31

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    Bravo! :rolleyes:
     
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