Advice?

Discussion in 'Mental Health' started by TipsyGypsy, Aug 18, 2015.

  1. TipsyGypsy

    TipsyGypsy Light of a Fading Star

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    there isn't any point
     
  2. Pieceofmyheart

    Pieceofmyheart Grumpy old bitch HipForums Supporter

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    I know it seems that way...I really do. Wish I could reach through the screen and hug you.
     
  3. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    I'm not advocating an particular religious view, or religion in general. It could be that parting ways with your faith might be a good path to self-love.

    However, if you identify yourself as a Christian, there is something implicit in that belief that requires you to value yourself.

    So according to Christian doctrine, all people are sinners. Jesus had such love for the sinners though, that he endured the torment of crucifixion and three days in hell as ransom for the souls of sinners (all of us).

    So if you believe in Jesus, then you also have to believe that you, even as a sinner, are worth the sacrifice that he made for you.
     
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  4. Pieceofmyheart

    Pieceofmyheart Grumpy old bitch HipForums Supporter

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    Call out to your angels and ask for help.

    Try changing your mind and make positive pictures in your mind along with a mantra you repeat when you feel this bad. Chanting is good....dancing is good, as well as hiking to get out in nature.
     
  5. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    Gay Christian groups may have an online presence, so you could visit a forum or communicate via email.

    Your therapist may be able to help direct you to groups that could support you.
     
  6. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Never understood why gay catholics/christians get upset when I imply Jesus liked to smoke the odd pole
     
  7. TipsyGypsy

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    there is. but the main person is a complete cow.

    i met some of them at pride and she was so rude.
     
  8. TipsyGypsy

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    who got upset? i just ignored it.
    i'm not one to get in a tizz about such comments.
     
  9. Pieceofmyheart

    Pieceofmyheart Grumpy old bitch HipForums Supporter

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    Because you are being a crass asshole when someone is obviously hurting. At least Tipsy can rise about your stupid comment.
     
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  10. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    My best advice... here goes. If there's only one thing I ever did for myself it was stop drinking. It's hard! But I did. And maybe you should think about it too. I'm not saying get into a 12 step program. I didn't. I'm just saying give yourself time to heal. Don't drink. It's my guess that it will solve many of your problems.
     
  11. Meliai

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    I seriously doubt there isn't a soul on earth who would miss you if you were gone but even if that is true, it doesn't mean you're worthless. There are billions of people on this planet which leaves a pretty high probability of finding a friend who can appreciate and care about you.
     
  12. TipsyGypsy

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    maybe one or two.

    I've found someone though, who would harm me instead of me harming myself.
     
  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Why is it crass, very likely he was gay

    And Typsy doesnt need another patronising just believe in yourself and santa will bring you presents this year post from me
     
  14. Vanilla Gorilla

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    And just back to this, as she did say this. And Pieceofmyheart said what she said

    More than one reason of course for it, but several different denominations do seem to over do it with the anti gay thing. How much of that in part at least comes from that murmuring below the surface of the mind, that the whole time they have been following a guy at least overly sensitive and empathetic and did seem to enjoy the company of lots of dudes.

    Why is christ on the cross always shown as ripped and nearly naked, many ladies in the congreagtion more emphatic about their devotion once they see abs on christ

    Making people feel guilty about sex or the promise of money or belonging to a group are the easiest ways to manipulate people. Why surround yourself with people who are going to concentrate on that first one, making you feel guilty......unless you like feeling guilty

    On the flip side, as Im sure Tipsy has worked out by now, some of the gay guys can be the most narcissistic and misogynistic people in existance. Many of the lesbians will also be very misogynistic, especially the queen bee and diesel dyke types

    ...becuase both categories know what works best with 99% of the female population. Either make it like they are getting in trouble from daddy or ignored by daddy

    You will all pretend it doesnt work, not even conscious that it does work, but every single time you'll get angry, cheeks will go red, obsess like nothing else, lower the tone in your voice when you do get angry so you sound more like a guy or the opposite and go soprano - both of which will repel the straight guys......all eventaully leading to horny, which comes from millions of years of evolution, natures way of making sure those father figures long ago didnt just hit you over the head and humanity survived

    So its either everyone else obsessing about a father figure to all with abs, naked on a cross, trying to make you feel guilty about their denial...but at least there is a community

    Or GLBT, who dont really get on, and in some regards are completely opposite minorities huddled together under the sexuality heading. Some of whom will just use your daddy issues against you or just use them to repel certain guys or to sniff out which girls are gay. Some community there,but too specific, only in your minority within a minority which only works in large urban centers.

    This ultimately is what I believe Tipsy needs, to find her real community, but that will only happen if she is TRULY honest with herself. Will not happen around a bunch of people enabling her to continue lying to herself
     
  15. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Or to put it more simply

    If you have gone your whole life thus far, mainly only listening to what people say that sounds good or makes you feel good in the here and now

    And yet here we are, this thread exists, with you saying you are miserable

    Then maybe it is time to turn everything on its head. Maybe what everyone says IS bullshit. Eveeeeereeeee one
     
  16. Never give up yourself in favor of your religion. Being true to yourself is the only true religion. If there was a Jesus, then that is what I think he would teach, like the Buddha. Not that the Buddha taught that. But he should have, because you are free to do what you want to do. Just never give up, because why not?
     
  17. TipsyGypsy

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    one thing about me is that i can never accept anything good that people say to me. never have been able to.

    i obviously haven't put everything thats caused me to feel to crap into this thread, so can't really expect to know whats happening or why i feel this way.

    its not all about other people.
     
  18. TipsyGypsy

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    i get what you're saying, but it's not quite it..
     
  19. Lynnbrown

    Lynnbrown Firecracker

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    I personally know a gay lady (I grew up with) and she is a leader/writer with Unity. Do you have that organization there? (Unity)

    Over here in the US there are several denominations (Presbyterian for one) that have made a point to come out saying they will not judge/condemn gay people.

    Please don't base your self-worth on what other's say, for usually the very ones that judge are the ones that (imo) have the darkest hearts.

    Remember in the bible it talks about "judge not lest ye be judged"...

    You go ahead and feel in your heart what you know is true to you, and please don't feel bad or guilty for the way you feel. Being gay isn't a choice, that is the way one is born.

    At the risk of sounding trite, God loves you...and He will help you. And please, pay no attention to those that would have you feel bad or wrong about yourself. :)
     
  20. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Errr, imagine someone said that to you, lets translate that into hetero:

    Please dont feel bad or guilty for being interested in men

    See what it sounds like, doesnt even make sense, or can be taken 1/2 dozen different ways


    Part of what Tipsy is talking about, can be well intentioned but still come off condescending
     

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