Adult 50 plus Commune Idea

I was also thinking, if a large enough parcel can be had in the right location it seems leasing footprint to cellular companies for towers might be able to at least cover any mortgage on the land. (Thinking tower on waaay back 40 out of the way) If anything, it could help offset some costs

 

Many people like to vacation or just visit the desert. My son, his wife and their friends are always going to the desert somewhere to camp and ride their mini bikes--shoot guns, etc. That place looks like with a few improvements---maybe some RV hookups, a pool, a place to gather and shoot pool or watch movies communally--it could be a fun moneymaker-----or just great a family retreat/ compound---or an old folks hippie retirement place ----I can see all kinds of uses for a place like that.

 

For sale by owner is ALWAYS a plus. Price negotiable plus maybe no bank financing .

 

Around here in Indiana and Ohio and even Michigan I can get a place with some ground and out buildings for under a $100 grand. Indiana and Ohio have mild winters compared to Michigan. The good thing about Michigan is the Democrat Party. It's Liberal. A man on Social Security income would get more benefits than the other states. Indiana does not give a shit about its old people. Some houses I looked at have annual taxes at less than $400 and car insurance is much cheaper than Michigan. Michigan has some real nice country/lake cabins but you need a 4X4 due to the snow.

 

Interesting....
I take it to sewer and water hookups are back by the meters.

 

Depends on the town?

 

I built a small septic system with a 55 gallon drum for use myself, partner and 2 kids when I lived in a travel trailer set up. Don't remember where I got the plans, but more than likely from Mother Earth News. If people were to buy raw land, I suppose a system and plans to build such has been designed and published somewhere regardless of the amount of people using it.

 

48 pages not reading them all to find out if I am first to say this.

I don't think age segregation is a good thing.

All generations hanging out together keeps things interesting.

Maybe a real commune would be cool for sure but I would never ever move to 55 and over residential condo nazi community. no way

 

Always been on my list to get land and build off grid stuff.

 

Earth bags done right heavy duty walls, bullet proof not a figure of speech. Cheap as dirt.

How many minutes to fill and place each bag and how many bags in that structure ? Cant even really guess how long that structure above would take.

 

In Colorado and New Mexico I knew people who collected water from rain and snow melt. The system worked after they filtered it for the kitchen. They did not bother with filtering to use in the toilet or washing clothes. I liked it better than a cistern in the ground. The people who had the cistern in Cache Le Poudre Canyon got field mice in it.

 

Building submerged, mostly underground evens out the extremes of temperature and leaves little to burn down in case of fire. Drilling and using water and “dry ice” instead of explosives to open the land for building. Still have to move the rubble. I like rocky, higher altitude for isolation and building material.
BUT, from experience, I plan on doing it alone. Too many not committed to anything but short term physical ease. Shit ! - don’t know about you - but I’m spirit having a physical interlude in the physical under Gaia’s auspices. - that, initiates, and continues. Old nuff that death is a friend I will welcome, thankful for the life and experiences that hopefully helped me grow.

 

[QUOTE="stormountainman] The people who had the cistern in Cache Le Poudre Canyon got field mice in it.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like where I was in Puerto Rico, caught rainwater on the roof which acted as a combination cistern, wading pool and mosquito hatchery

 

I would be open to living in an apartment if it were in a community where I felt safe and welcome. I am looking for something that is over 50+ that is both gay and hippie friendly. I'm not too crazy about red states or places where the heat is oppressive.

 

Sounds like where I was in Puerto Rico, caught rainwater on the roof which acted as a combination cistern, wading pool and mosquito hatchery[/QUOTE]
They just had a flash flood in Cache Le Poudre Canyon yesterday. The ground gave out because the Cameron Fire burned off everything which held the hillsides together. Three people were killed and they might have been some I knew. I lived in that area for 36 years. Global Warming/climate change is real. The Cameron fire and The High Park fire burned off a half million acres in northern Colorado. If we live in the hills we need to prepare for such a problem. I saw some of the flames which went up hundreds of feet into the air. Global Warming is real.

 

Thank you for pointing out that there can be a lot of space for discussion between an armed encampment and being unable to defend the yardbirds or the organic veggies.

Stormmtnman seems to have a bit of difficulty understanding that life isn't all black and white...

for instance... I had a bit of a problem last summer when some large dogs were dumped out in the neighborhood... one night they found my place... dug their way into the hen house, murdered 25 pet birds in a single kill spree.

Those people that actually have had the chance to cook with free range eggs, and garden fresh organic vegetables will appreciate that there is no way of going back to that commercially produced junk offered at the local supermarket... when there are better options...

I don't want to live in a space with a bunch of heavily armed people that I barely know... but when storm called me names and refused to consider the importance of protecting the livestock and the gardens... it seemed absolutely beyond the scope of a normal discussion about living in community.

 

That was one of the things I liked about the 24 acre place with the big, gutted murder house in Bisbee, at the foot of a smallish hill but doesn't appear to be in a flood zone.
The other part being the parcel is about 25 minutes down a dirt road with a handful of neighbors scattered across what looks like about 100 or so acres according to Google maps.

607 N Lupine Pl
607 N Lupine Pl, Bisbee, AZ 85603
Google Maps

 

Well, what about a Log cabin for Duncan?
Carefree Cove of North Carolina – Blueridge North Carolina Community

 

There is another formerly cool town there. It is Patagonia. It used to be cheap, and the last time I drove through it, it looked like a ghost town with lots of rotten wood structures. I was thinking cheap land could be had there.

 

Nice territory but not Cochise County.
That's the "magical land of lax building codes" and I've found a cluster of reasonably priced parcels. Groundwater averages less than 400' down according to the County maps.

I think it's going to be an interesting few years ahead






It did look pretty from afar on 19 headed to Nogales one night, at least I think it had to be Patagonia. Maybe I'll take the long way around to Tombstone next time and drive through?
Hmmmmm...

 

I'll have to look into the area more but I've been near it enough to know it's pretty over there.

Personally I'm pretty set on Cochise county as from all I've gathered it seems to be one of the most lax places in the country (Or at least Az) with regards to building codes and zoning. Sticky point for me as I'm aiming to do a bermed monolithic dome structure using fused basalt / re-molten lava and guessing that will be hard to get approval in most places being as I'm not any sort of formally trained architect.

 

Yes it's a nice ride through the hills when you go east bound. The houses there had a lot of termite damage. There used to be lots of squatters from Mexico there and in Sanderson Texas.

 

Patagonia is higher in the hills with pecan groves near by. It is not as hot as Tucson and Phoenix because of altitude. I don't know about water availability.

 

Too much chance of hitting a big piece of metal with a chainsaw for me to be cutting up railroad ties...