Discussion in 'Psychedelics' started by mr_belvedere, May 23, 2004.

  1. mr_belvedere

    mr_belvedere Member

    Of course you all know this question is coming from that great book/movie/failed journalistic experiment turned drug extravagansa starrin Dr.Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Is this shit real, do people do it, i mean i know that the book is based of a true event with some journalistic license of course but accurate for the most part. anyone ever hear of or know someone who has done this shit?
  2. Becknudefck

    Becknudefck Senior Member

    omg i love hunter thompson. he fucking rules. however, i do not know if it is real. im guessing theres a good chance it is.

    "you took too much man. too much too much."
    fear and loathing in las vegas is the best movie.
  3. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

    Adrenochrome is a real substance (3-hydroxy-1-methyl-5,6-indoline-dione), but it's psychedelic effects appear to be mostly the stuff of legend, I'm afraid.

    Profound effects were claimed from tiny dosages in one early paper, but many subsequent studies failed to find anything spectacular at all. And the stuff about it being extracted from the pineal glands of cadavers is pure Hunter Thomson gonzo bullshit. :)

    A bunch of information available at:
  4. Becknudefck

    Becknudefck Senior Member

    oooh but it is not bull shit. and he said from the adrenaline gland of a human body. anyhow, thonpson is excellent. but wow im adding that shit to my list of drugs to do.
  5. backtothelab

    backtothelab Senior Member

    yeah, i think he meant adrenal gland, not penial. If that was the case, though, some quite interesting situations would insue.
  6. Antimatter235

    Antimatter235 Member

    rofl, it was "pineal" not "penial". I don't know what he wrote, but the pineal gland is about melatonin.

    and adrenochrome is nothing special anyway, it's just regular adrenalin turned "bad" because of oxidation.
  7. Becknudefck

    Becknudefck Senior Member

    lmao. oh really? i must look into it then before i do it and get bad vibes off of it.
  8. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

    I just dug out my copy of FALILV, and HST claimed that the only source for adrenochrome was the adrenal gland of a LIVING human being, and his source was suppoosedly a "satanist client" of his attorney, who presumably practiced human sacrifice.

    At any rate, adrenochrome is not obtained by human sacrifice. It is the oxidation product of adrenaline (epinephrine), and is used medicinally in some countries. No reports of psychedelic trips by patients, though....

    More at the erowid page.
  9. cotter builds

    cotter builds Member

    all i know is HST reports using it in FAL on the campaign trail ' vegas wasnt the first time he did it.
  10. crackforkids

    crackforkids Senior Member

    ok. i am really confused. what does EROWID say the REASON for using this drug would be? i thought at one point it was an anti-psychotic. prolly not.

    and my dad has a seringe full of epinephrine in case he has an allergic reaction. i mean, i think thats what it is. sounds jus like it. that would pop your heart if you tried to abuse it, right?

    i thought the pineal gland HST was talking about was the gland where DMT is naturally contained, hence the DMT like visions (tits growing on back) very "naoto hattori" -like (if you know who that is)

    and could adrenaline even be abused, i never thought so
  11. Jennifer19

    Jennifer19 Oxygen girl

    yeah I love that movie too
  12. Ediction421

    Ediction421 Member

    Isn't it super easy to make?
  13. Antimatter235

    Antimatter235 Member

    Just leave adrenaline exposed to oxygen until it turns pink.
  14. I don't think they were talking about adrenochrome concerning the reference to the pineal gland; they were talking about DMT (Dimethyltryptamine), which is naturally produced in your pineal gland.
  15. Zaruthustra

    Zaruthustra Member

    Well...what are we waiting for? Whose got 72 bux and some balls?

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    I believe it's used in other countries for heart problems or something. I also remember Huxely making remarks about it being similar to mescaline and the implications of such a substance being present in the human body. But I don't remember if he actually tried it.
  16. youd be suprised my freind...sure not all adrenochrome is, but that dosent mean all isnt
  17. Antimatter235

    Antimatter235 Member

    Who said killing people wasn't productive?
  18. Psilodelix

    Psilodelix Member

    I'm not sure of the source but I remember reading some time back the when the french were in north america fighining aginst the people that really belonged there, there was often shortages of adrenaline (this happened in WW1 also) so occasionally they would (for what ever reason I dunno) administer 'pink adrenaline'. They reported that this was often accompanied by horrific hallucinations and delusions. Could you imagine an adrenochrome trip while you're trying to recover from battle wounds!

    There is a peice of the chemical puzzle missing here but even if it's figured out... I don't think that adrenochrome will be something people should do to trip off, it just seems way too crazy... but more power to ya.

  19. madboy139

    madboy139 Member

    dr. shulgin says adrenochrome is not hallucinogenic
  20. SoFarAway

    SoFarAway Friendly Fried Guy

    If I could get it, I'd try it, and let you all know whats up.

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