Abortion

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by feministhippy, Jun 14, 2004.

  1. Lorna

    Lorna The Magician

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    That was nice from you love, thanks.
     
  2. Poem~Girl

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    I have seen a several hours program on conception from before the spermatozoide comes in, and you can see with a camera placed inside all the baby growing.
    it isnt the heart who is there, but the cells who constitute the cells of the hearts, and whcih function is to beat contsntly , so even the heart isnt fromed at all yet, you can see those cells beatting.
    They are part of a muscle, thats why.
    And there is also life in a lam, but you all eat lams at easter.
    The name foetus is the medical name meaning an egg in gestation, which is the case here.
    It is an embryon, or foetus. It is the real name for it.
    A baby is a new born. Before birth he isnt finished yet, and thats why it is call an embryon.
    The embryon of the first 4 weeks looks first like the embryon of a frog, because the genetical base is the same. It only change at a later stage.
    It is important to understand that.
    Also that after sex, it takes 5 to 6 days for the spermatozoide to reach the egg. So plan B syustem are not abortion, but a way to close the egg as p-pills does, and provocate menstruation BEFORE the egg is fecondated.
    So it cannot be call an abort in that case, or all women have abort every month all their life if menstruation is hte same as abortion.
    Foetus is not a negative term about baby, it is the name for a baby in formation, and baby is for the foetus who has passed its final stage of development.
    Thats all.--------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Lorna

    BTW;
    I wasn't born yesterday, i know all about it . I've taken bio and taken SEVERAL other courses that require training in child care and hands on in the field i'm in.
    Shows are great to watch , but real life is diffrent
    Terms are awesome to know But REAL life human being being killed inside is the most devestating thing i could ever imagine.
     
  3. Riggs

    Riggs Banned

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    Let it go, love. Please let it go. Talk about something nice. Like me. LOL
     
  4. Lorna

    Lorna The Magician

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    you are right baby, lets go away from here..it is best.
     
  5. weedartlove6

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    pro-choice
     
  6. Nalencer

    Nalencer Dig Yourself

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    There are much more important issues to talk about than abortion. Just drop it.
     
  7. sweetdreadlover

    sweetdreadlover TattooedRainbowGurl

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    as a woman who has miscarried a child i cannot ever imagine having an abortion. thats a decision youd have to live with for your entire life so ud better make sure its the one u want...i dunno i see more people regret it than not
     
  8. Piece Of Mind

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    I think my reason for being pro-choice is first and foremost the fact that I do not feel it justified for an outside party (especially the government...because that is who would implement a law banning abortion if it were to occur) to decide what a person CAN and CANNOT do with his or her body. That is how I believe it is unjustified to tell a woman she must carry an unwanted pregnancy to term. I also find it unjustified in making drugs illegal, but that is another debate for another time...

    I cannot seem to rationalize the idea of someone else making decisions that concern the well-being of my mental, physical and psychological health; my person...especially when it is some random third party.

    I cannot allow how I feel about a situation be forced upon other people. I'm uncertain, if put in the situation, if I would abort or continue the pregnancy. I most certainly wouldn't be able to afford a child (I can hardly afford myself, lol)...The point is, it's a decision that must be made by the effected parties (pregnant woman and father of fetus--if around) IMO.
     
  9. Piece Of Mind

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    Or the man could use a condom!

    Also, when there is a way for each and every woman to be able to obtain birth control at an affordable cost THEN you can start throwing out that idea. Until then, work for the idea...but dont' be fooled that woman can easily and affordably be able to obtain birth control whenever they want. At this point (unfortunately) that is not so.

    I"ve never heard of this as being very common? Emphasis on this is a moot point because it is a rarity that there would be third trimester abortions...on the account they are illegal and only used in certain cases (i.e. if the mother might die, fetus is dead, etc)

    First, let's clear things up. Most abortions are first trimester. Therefore, the fetus cannot feel, hear, think, etc etc etc...

    To get to the point that you speak of, a woman would have to carry the fetus to term. 9 months. That is the problem. If a woman does not want to use her body, her resources, to carry the fetus to term, that should be her choice. As a pro-choice person I respect the right to bodily autonomy. I also respect the right that I feel everyone should have in being able to make decisions when it comes to their body.

    How did you get from abortion to herion users?

    And most do...so what was all that before this?
     
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  11. Van_Gogh

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    totally depends on the man who knocked you up in my mind.


    is he a hottie? save the kid then. maybe it can model. make you some money.

    was he offending to look at? no reason to pro-create and end up with an ugly child you didnt even really want.

    simple as that.
     
  12. fricknfrack

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    If i had something medically wrong , or the baby had something wrong with it and it was going to risk our health sure i'd have an abortion. But I'm totally against abortion.

    Whether or not i get raped or it was a accident or my husband doesn't want children. My gosh children do not come in this world as mistakes or accidents and asked to be sucked into vacuum tubes and thie brains be thrown out!

    WAKE UP!
    If some of you unravel the sheets make ur own damn bed and live up to society's standards. Theres help out there that will support you.
     
  13. Bella Désordre

    Bella Désordre Charmed

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    I am pro-choice, but would be pro-life if people were honestly pro-lifers and not just pro-birth. what's the point of passing laws reulting in births where the child has no health care and a poor education?
     
  14. fricknfrack

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    OP asked I gave CORP if you can't take it oh friggin well
     
  15. flowerchild07

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    I think its the woman's choice, women should have a right to choose what to do with their own bodies. Pro-Choice.
     
  16. madlizard

    madlizard Senior Member

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    Pro-choice on everything.
    Of course abortion should be a personal choice..
    why should someone control a woman's- or anyone's- right
    to make her own decision?
     
  17. cannabis=freedom

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    Because it's not her decision to kill a child.

    That's like me saying I could kill my three-year-old son (if I had one) if I decide I don't want him. Really, what's the difference? To me, life doesn't begin when the child comes out, it begins when the sperm hits the eggs.

    Having said that, I don't think it should be illegal, though, because people are going to do it anyway, and better in a safe environment than coat hangers like in the '50s...I have the same attitude about heroin.

    I think it's ok if the child is going to be born severely disabled, because that would be a mercy killing, or if the woman was raped, or her life is in danger, etc.
     
  18. Detox

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    Im Pro-choice

    if A women wants ababy...good for her
    and if she doesnt then why should we judge her

    she can do whatever she want with herself
     
  19. cannabis=freedom

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    But it's not herself. It's her baby, too. Women don't have the right to kill their baby.

    If you don't want a baby, give it up for adoption.
     
  20. xDaniixEllex

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    Pro choice in a huge way, but having said that I could never go through that.

    I remember reading a story from both sides, about 4 women, 2 had one, 2 didn't.
    It really opened my mind to the pain that these women must be in that they have to take that as the last option.

    I think that we need help for these women on both sides and not just someone there to talk them out of it, but there to really help.
     

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