Abortion

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Mui, May 28, 2004.

  1. Mari

    Mari Member

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    That is disgusting. They had a choice, but want to take that choice away from someone else? Not to mention the fact that they would do well to remember how THEY felt going into that office, and have a little more compassion for other people.

    Actually now that I think about it I think what you just said is a crock.
     
  2. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    They feel they were deceived and violated, and they want to spare other women the same trauma. Their efforts have not been in vain. Some of them have even met the babies whose lives were saved because their mothers chose not to go through with their abortion.
     
  3. Gabino

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    However It IS True, and I Do Know the Facts About this First hand.

    And it it THIS that Is NOT TRUE.
    There are children who are in foster homes, but they, for the most part are not available for adoption. In most cases there is a biological parent out there who is trying to get his/her kids back. Or maybe even simply a biological parent who will not give up parental rights. Foster childre are NOT AVAILABLE FOR ADOPTION!

    Meanwhile ANY baby born in the USA, has adoptive parents who would be delighted to have them. ANY baby. ANY......BABY.



    So I guess Huck Finn is not.
    But then you must be.....
    ...wrong.
     
  4. Gabino

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    For example ---- you use the word "overflowing".

    You made it up.\
    It isn't true.
    You don't know of any, and the fact is there aren't any.
    Period.

    You made it up.
     
  5. Applespark

    Applespark Ingredients:*Sugar*

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    Abortion is like any other thing in this world....abused. Abused like drugs. Abused like birth control. Abused and over used. I will stick by the right to choose. I stick by that because I cannot choose for everyone in their own situations. But I believe that real life choices begin in the home the whole life through and if you really want change in the world start in your own home. Whatever it is that yu want to change about this issue start with yourself and your children. Bashing others won't do a thing. Picketing this issue is going to do nothing. Making Abortion non legal will not solve much. We will only have a whole new batch of problems. I agree if it must be done it must be safe for the woman. And I agree no congressman will get my vote for the rights to choose what gose on with my body.
     
  6. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    and you know this how??

    you dont know shit about adoption.you do you even know anyone who has adopted?


    oh wait...you dont need to answer that because for the sake of convenience you will simply say..

    1:I am adopted

    or 2:I adopted 3 kids



    You and Huck Finn are the only 2 people on this forum under the dellusion that every child is wanted...that every baby(and frozen embryo)is wanted.


    what that is not true.IT'S NOT TRUE!

    YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT LIKE THE TRUTH!


    there are thousands and thousands of children between the ages of 3-13 that HAVE NO PARENTS...NO ONE WANTS THEM!

    they arent custody disputes or kids that the biological parents want back.



    THEY ARE PERFECTLY ADOPTABLE...BUT NO ONE WANTS THEM!

    because everybody only wants a single-raced healthy newborn.preferrably a white healthy newborn.


    If every child was wanted...there would be no kids needing to be adopted!



    Get your ass out of your fantasy world.
     
  7. Gabino

    Gabino Member

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    Say it as loud as you like, it still isn't true.
    Be as nasty as you can, it still isn't true.


    Or if you care to, call any adoption counselor you like and find out the truth.

    The truth is...
    You will have to pay a lot of money to adopt a child.
    Babies are a high-priced "commodity", for one simple reason --- they are a "commodity" that has more "customers" than "product".

    Every baby that is put up for adoption will be adopted.
    Period.
    Check it out yourself, before you make silly comments.
     
  8. Gabino

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    Oh, and just for the record,
    I am not adopted,
    I have 6 children, none adopted,
    and I know at least 2 dozen people personally who have adopted.
    Not a single one of them adopted a white baby.
     
  9. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    Otter does have a point in that older kids are harder to place, but that has no bearing on the abortion debate. There is plenty of demand for infants, so adoption is clearly a viable alternative to abortion.
     
  10. Jozak

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    Care to prove it?
     
  11. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    my plan worked much better than i had originally planned!!! 13 pages!! MORE!! *evil laughter*
     
  12. lovelyweapon

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    Not to you, no.
     
  13. Alexandria

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    Well, I suppose I cant speak for everyone.....But the women I have known (and I know quite a few) that have had an abortion dont regret it at all. It was a tuff decision and made for a GOOD reason....and well thought out. It has seemed to me that most "pro life" people seem to think that a women gets prego and then thinks....damn! I dont feel like having a kid this year....so what to do? what to do? OH YEAH! I will just call the abortion clinic!I think they are open 9-5!.......that may be a bit of a stretch, but you get my point. Some women regret the decision.....but I would say that MOST do not. But then, I dont have some poll with numbers...and I dont care enough to go search it out on the net....just using common sense here.l
     
  14. Jozak

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    Well since common sense dictates I am not the only one on here reading these posts, I was speaking on behalf of the other people here. I asked you to back up your statement and you refused, which means you can't or can and are just being difficult.
     
  15. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Well I don't regret mine.
     
  16. lovelyweapon

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    I'm not being difficult, I just don't like you.

    I could point you to many websites that have stories of women who have had abortions and not regretted it; I am sure you could find some which say the complete opposite.

    No one is going to ever win this debate or argument. Once in awhile pro-choicers and pro-lifers find common ground, but it's just not going to happen here. It's utterly pointless.
     
  17. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    I would hope that "pro-choice" (as opposed to pro-abortion) people could support a project aimed at providing real alternatives to women who would rather not abort their babies:

    http://www.feministsforlife.org/cop/index.htm
     
  18. Jozak

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    LOL...okay....whatever....you don't even know me.





    Now....

    ......you are changing your statement. You said the majoirty of women did not regret their abortion, so I am still waiting for your data that proves so, unless of course you lied.
     
  19. lovelyweapon

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    I have seen enough from you on these forums to know that you are someone I would never want to know.

    I didn't change my statement. I still stand by my assertation that most women do not regret their abortions. Some of them do, sure. And it hurts me that these are women who go to clinics and wave huge photographs of dead fetuses around in front of other women JUST LIKE THEM who are going through an extremely tough and confusing time. That's compassion for ya, no doubt about it.

    http://www.behindeverychoice.com/read_stories.asp
    http://www.imnotsorry.net/storyarchive.htm
     
  20. HuckFinn

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    If the unborn are somehow subhuman, why should these photos bother you?
     

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