Abortion

"saying that it is okay for a woman to kill a child because she is the one that has to give birth to it is like saying it's okay for a guy to rape a girl that dresses ( for a lack of a better word ) whorish"

Why does your use of this analogy not surprise me?

"I'm a bit of a germaphobe, except for some women, that I consider clean, but that's way off topic"

Actually it's on the topic we are currently talking about...your wacked elitist opinions. Let me guess the women which you consider clean just happen not to be black or asian right? Why don't you run that clen comment by your Asian and black friend?

In regards to FIFA and the world cup etc...consider yourself lucky. You have the right to pull for a few different teams (Nations)...cool!

" I know there's black players on mostly white teams and such, but it doesn't matter to me because they're great athletes, so why not have a great athlete on your team, I know if I wanted to make a winning basketball team I'd first check out the tall players or the black players ( black not because I'm racist but because it's proven black athletes have a better cardio system, they just do, genetics ) but if there's too much multiculturalism in the future, sports teams like Canada ( although Canada is quite bad in many summer sports internationally ) may have several different people from several different other countries, and then you don't know what you're cheering for. " -OMG

The reason it's not supposed to matter to you is not because they are good atheletes so you give them a pass. It's supposed to be because color means nothing. So black people have a better cardio system huh? Do they also have that extra bone in their leg that I've heard so much about? Hey I know as well as anyone that there are more blacks than whites in the NBA. I assure you it's not their lungs. What you are supposed to be cheering for is Canadians. That term has nothing to do w/ race only cuurrent residence.

"I kinda want to see most of the Russian team made up of Russian players, not asians, because even though there are a sufficient amount of asians in eastern Russia, that's not the majority of Russia. "
I am petty sure that those Asians are just as russian as the next guy. It's where they live not where their ancestors originated from. God I wish you part black so that we could just discuss abortion.

 

Your opinion on rape cases vs. the incidence of pregnancy is crap. Where did you hear that dribble? What trauma are you referring to that would change the likelyhood or pregnancy?

 

Your story is disjointed. And if you quote her correctly she was no where near ready to be a mother. The remourse from having given up a child for adoption can be just as bad as the remourse from having an adoption.

 

Why is it that the majority is seldom right? I would consider it a slightly more accurate statement that the majorityis seldom ever wrong (though not by much).

 

-OMG (again)

Wait a sec. Now "killing" unborn fetusis is wrong. And your solution is to kill? am beginning to wonder if you are just saying stupid sht to get some attention?

 

If we had to choose between your opinions and hers, she would not be alone, I assure you.

 

I respect your opinion because of the way that you stated it. Well done.

 

Men can't bare children.

 

Yeah, I hope people like you will die out so humanity can live on.

 

Again, the way the majority thinks, and as I say the majority is seldom ever right, so yeah, good going.

 

The way things are going there's not going to be an America anymore. Mainly because half of your country is below average in intellect.

Oh, and btw, it says on my display I'm in Canada, idiot.

 

This is a forum. Okay, a forum. A little thing called the internet, okay. Yeah, maybe you forgot that. Not everyone here is a hippie.

 

1. I'm not going to continue explaining my stance on this.

2. Yeah, but I wish I was a whole pie.

3. That's part of the reason, too many people for a country that can't support them, however I stated they need more birth control, not abortion, are you blind?

 

sounds like someone takes people's opinion to heart Waaaaay too much

 

Wrong. I once dated an asian woman, from Cambodia. There's not that many black women where I live. Well, this year there's significantly more now that I live in Toronto but when I went to High School, there was like one black kid out of a hundred.

Have you ever heard the phrase " Champions, born or made? " it's up to debate, not here.

 

She had no remourse, that was the point.

 

Where's the assurance?

 

I am pro-choice for good reason.

I won't have anyone telling me how to live my life, and use my body. Abortion needs to be available for more reasons than just that it's the woman's choice as well.

Ever hear of backalley abortions and coat hangers, maximus? That's the kind of thing that happened when abortions were illegal... Instead of many babies dying, both the mother and her unborn child were dying because they couldn't get the proper care and counseling for these things.

You also might fail to realize that it is already not just a hop, and skip away to a clinic where you can get an abortion, they aren't cheap, and you have to go through a bit before you can actually get one.

There aren't many clinics open anymore, the cost is usually around 400 dollars or more which makes it difficult for MANY people to get an abortion, and in the state of Wisconsin, at least, you must be first, counselled and have parents' consent if you're a minor.

Don't forget that there are health reasons to abort too. If the woman's life is at risk, the baby's, or both... there should definitely be that option available.

Don't even talk to me about abstinence, because that is the most "idealistic" retarded thing ever. There is no way you can except people to just outright stop having sex if they don't want a child; it is beyond idealistic to the point of ignorance. People are going to have sex. Period.

And do you even know how difficult it is for a woman to get tubal litigation? And do you know how difficult it is to talk your partner into having a circumcision?

I also hope you know that birth control is not ever 100% reliable. In fact, new studies show that up to 8 out of every 100 women will be come pregnant with their first year of birth control.

Not to mention, birth control is yet another thing to put a woman's health at risk.

Condoms are beyond iffy.

And on a more personal level, don't get me fucking started about how women, or fathers are taking the "easy way out" by having abortions. Because, if you would even stop to think for a second about the kind of traumatizing things that an abortion entails, you'd realize that those who have had an abortion didn't have it fucking easy. If you would even stop for a second to think about how scary that must be for someone to be lying on a table and relying on the doctor to not mess up and hurt them in the process, or to wonder if you're going to have any horrible side affects, or just the experience as a whole.... you'd understand that it's not fucking easy.


DON'T GET ME FUCKING STARTED, I CAN GO ON FOR DAYS ABOUT THIS. Until you're a woman, and you encounter a scary situation like this, don't even think about deciding what we should or should NOT be able to do with our bodies and lives in general.

Peace.

 

Oh, and to conclude with a most IGNORED fact of the day, too, countries that do not have abortion providers or where it is illegal, the rates of abortion are HIGHER.

You want those numbers you spoke of in your OP to go up even more?

 

i hate this subject but here it goes.about 2 years ago my wife was pregnant with my child we were so stoked about this.well something bad went wrong with my wife inside she was bleeding alot and no one knew what was wrong.about 2 months into it the doctor told my wife she might die during the birth.they gave us 2 choices have the kid and it didnt look good {and take a chance on my wife dying}or have an abortion.i want to tell you know it was the hardest choice i ever made in life but like i told my wife i have known you longer and you have helped me throught to much also i think god would understand.sitting in that clinic i got sick but we had no choice but the feeling looking around and seeing everyone there and i swear alot of them were like 18 to 20.i even seen one girl with a guy who he had to be 40 and she looked 18.so heres my view on it if you get raped or your life is in trouble then i see it.but if you are careless and have unprotected sex in this day and age then you should have the baby at least give it up when its born.