Abortion

I googled abortion and that was a mistake, i have never liked abortion if i ever got pregnant and now hate the thought of it even more for me.
A few of my girlie friends have had one or 2 and to be honest they act like they dont give a shit " naa im gonna be asleep so i wont know whats going on, when i wake up it wont be in me anymore" Sure people do it for the own reason but personally i dont see many reasons for having one - only in very very exceptional circumstances.

People can have abortion up to 24 weeks which is wrong anyway

 

God, this one is yours.

 

No woman has an abortion easily. The Christian right might think so, but every woman that decides to have one, has to live with that decision the rest of their life.

Men preen and fluff up with just some vague indication that they may have fathered a child. They don't ever face the real consequences of the act, most of the time. What actually did they ever contribute but little free swimming pollywogs.

 

I'm not here to make anyone mad at me or to judge people that had one. I just couldn't ask or try to make a woman have this done to her.

 

Then why try to legislate limitations on a woman's right to choose?

 

That is the most poorly formed sentence I have ever seen. Since you are damn near retarded, should we have aborted you? You often advocate killing dumb people. I just though that was interesting.

 

But there i men who does. And even men who spend their time making flirt on women having them beleive they are going to be together, and htat he want a child, get them pregnant, and drop them when the limit for abortion is over, sating he changed his mind!
I was in a special school for adults, special upgrading class, and in that place, there was 5 girls pregnat at different stage of their pregnacy and the father was the ame guy, 43 years old, who had doen the same trick to each of them!
I was told he had said to each, after, that he had never said he wanted a child and had changed his mind!!!
There is also those who remove the condom on purpose, I mean some men are crazy, like those who go with partner because they know they have aids and want as many as possible to be infected!
I dont think that abortion is a good thing, I dont think its alright at all, but there is cases where it is necessary.
And as said gardener, those women lives with it for the rest of their life.
It is like dying yourself.
So it isnt a question of being for or against, but something different from case to case.
There is also married couple where the guy crave for the woman to abort or he leaves her.
That kind of emotional blackmail. She dont want the one nor the other, but the decision is put on her.
I think its good what Riggs said and we need more of those men around..

 

Neither should you. The choice shouldn't fall to anyone but the mother.

 

I'd like to say, on behalf of my gender, that that's probably pretty rare. I'm not saying lots of dudes don't knock girls up and then walk out on them, but I'd be very surprised if more than a tiny minority of them did it pretending they wanted to have babies with the girl. Most dudes just want to get laid, there's very little malice involved.

 

It is the woman that has to carry the child to term and essentially be responsible for that life. Unless the man wants to accept total responsibility, they are just sperm donors. If they wish to legislate this bodily function then they should be prepared to carry out a pregnancy and support a child until it reaches a majority.

 

Then you ought to be prepared to experience the joys of parenthood. But few males are.

 

Oh, I agree, all I'm saying is that I doubt most men think that far ahead. There might be the odd dude who gets sick pleasure out of making single mothers, but most of us are just a bit rubbish.

I find it interesting that a lot of anti-abortion people, being religious, are also anti-birth control.

 

God did give us free will. I just try to do what I feel is right, like you guys do.

 

God gave us free will but the Republican's will try to take it away from us, or at least make us pay for it.

 

A person can do what they think is right without trying to convince others to do the same. Seems like a reasonable compromise, right?

Would legalised abortion be a problem if no-one ever used that right? I do wonder. I imagine a few people would have no problem with it, but a lot of people would still go on the same old moral crusades, because they don't want people to have the option, regardless of whether they think they'll take it.

 

I think that's what pushes this whole debate. Many of the very men that oppose it probably drove their girl friends to illegal abortion sites, before it was legalized.

 

Like I said, I am in no way trying to judge anyone that has had this done. Who am I to judge? Not my job.

 

My personal theory on this is that the Christian right have nothing but contempt for humanity. I mean, it's as if they assume that we have no moral compasses of our own.

Christians, and the right in general, believe that we can only exist in these moral straightjackets that keep us "on the path". Without them, they seem to theorize, it will all fall apart.

The problem I have with it is at least two fold, as far as I can see:

For one, that path was really designed (in quite an ingenious fashion) with the intentions of creating a subservient class of people who would be more suseptible to control by a government. Organized Christianity preys on humanity's innate desire to do good. It pretends to function as a guiding light towards universal truth and beauty, but the actual location of that light is wherever it's convenient for the government to steer the general populace. This deception is not only immoral and unfair (sacrificing the many to benefit the few) but ultimately limiting of the potential of humanity. We're wasting our lives looking at shadows, instead of stepping out of the cave and witnessing the real.

The other is that people are becoming wiser with each passing generation, and religion is losing strength. There is more and more friction between the religious and secular circles of society as religion stubbornly clings on like a leech that's been discovered and is about to be tugged from the flesh.. This is rapidly creating an equally divided country, which creates concerns. The secular movement is gaining more and more power, and things are begining to look hopeful for this country, but we're headed towards a time of great friction. Sometimes I wonder if civil war is really so far off.

My personal opinion is that we need to expediate the process of the decay of organized religion, so that we can develop into a powerful, united nation once again , brought together under progressive, existentialist ideals that celebrate and empower the human condition and the power of free will, rather than shit on them.

I look forward to the day when we can cast aside this manufactured god and marvel in the unadultrated beauty and truth of nature, while placing our faith in humanity's power to do good rather than some voice behind a curtain.

 

I am not talking about all but about one guy and there is some like that, and it isnt because all guys are not like that that the problem is less.
there is ididots everywhere, and you will have never thougth the guy was the kind to do that sort of things. all were shoked when it came out.

And we are not talking about dude that get laid but about abortions, and i was refering to context and situation where an apparently planed pregnacy turmn sour and where an abortion will be the best thing to do.
The woman wasnt careless, she was tricked and cheated by a guy with very nasty intentions.
So if abort is forbidden, they cant recour to it either and it will be wrong that they have to pay for the rest of their life for the terrible deeds of a psychopath. While he can just walk free..
There must be some justice and humanity in the picture.
And iomagine being pregnant, ahving been taken for a fool, and ahving to go through an abort, swell, dotn you think?
really good stuff to feel up and get 10 years with low selfestime..

 

I will mention at this point that I'm not anti-choice.

I just worry that a lot of pro-choice people don't make their arguments very well because they tend to prefer to assume that their "opponents" are morons who couldn't possibly have just come to a different conclusion based on the same, non-conclusive evidence.