Abortion

Discussion in 'Protest' started by MaximusXXX, Oct 26, 2006.

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  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    MaximusXXX at nineteen can't have much experience with raising children or being responsible for them.
     
  2. shutterfly

    shutterfly Member

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    You're actually calling me selfish and ignorant because you think I don't know how the world works? Trust me little one... I know a lot more about how the world works than you think. And guess what? In 50 years, I'm gonna be part of your dying numbers. I think it would be incredibly selfish of me to breed simply so I'll have people to look after me when I'm old. Humanity is not all it's cracked up to be. Humans are very much elitists and, much like you, think for some strange reason that our life is the only life. Well that my friend is not all there is to life. The loss of humanity is not necessarily a bad thing. People die. Life dies. Am I selfish for not wanting to bring any more people into this world? No way. This world, imo, is not fit to bring more people into. I think you're ignorant for thinking this world needs more people, for it certainly does not. You sound kinda like a racist too with your nationalistic perspective. By your philosophy, I'm one of the immigrants diluting purebred nationality because I am a blend of immigrants that came to America from France, Germany, England and Japan. I am one of your nationalist destroyers by birth. Although I am not a third world immigrant (you make that sound like it would be a bad thing, like maybe you think people from third world nations are inferior), my peeps are immigrants nonetheless and I am a product of them. I like being mixed up. And if the people of the future world ended up all mixed up with no 'pure' blood running through their veins I hardly think they would give a shit. One's ethnicity does not have to coincide with one's cultural practices. Is cultural loss what you're concerned with? Is that why you think nationalism is so important? Or are you a just another purebred arian power white guy afraid of your pure blood being threatened by racial mixing? And do you really believe that this world is in any real threat of becoming so mixed up that people will lose the differences that separate us? I don't think so. There are still many people who like to breed with their own believe it or not. Maybe mixing it up is exactly what we need though. Maybe then people will wake the fuck up and realize that beneath the surface we're not so damn different after all.
     
  3. hippychickmommy

    hippychickmommy Sugar and Spice

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    I believe, although I am not particularly FOR abortion, that it is indeed the woman's choice. Who am I to judge? Do I agree with it as a form of birth control? Well, no. But I also understand that situations happen.

    The woman that chooses to have the abortion is the person who has to live with her decision for the rest of her life, in which case, how exactly does that affect you? Would you take that child in, raise it, feed, clothe, educate it? More than likely, no. That's what gets me about the radical prolifers. All talk. If you really want to stop abortion, offer these women more help with the medical expenses and aftercare. Help that mother and child make it in this world.
     
  4. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    To immigrate say doctors from contries like Germany it's beneficial, but we don't need a slew of poor immigrants to boost the economy just because the country itself can't produce.
     
  5. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    Blame our " free " society then. Of course the father should be bound to his children.
     
  6. Komokwa

    Komokwa Member

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    that does not even come close to answering my questions. Read my post again.
     
  7. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    And you?

    The fact that there are so many black children waiting to be adopted in the U.S. is because of the immense racism that still exists in the good ol U.S. of A.
     
  8. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    I don't believe in high multiculturalism, I only support immigration of those who we need, such as both my parents are doctors. Which Canada needs.

    I myself am a quarter Russian, Polish, Hungarian and German, but I wish I was pure something like my Macedonian friend.
     
  9. Komokwa

    Komokwa Member

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    sure that is what you believe but how would identity be lost?

    North America was built on immigration, that is a huge part of the identity.
     
  10. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    There's too many responses for now that I believe are very much connected to the " woman's choice " and " decision " ideology.

    I'll tell you a story that got me way on the side of Anti-Abortion, before I was like most sitting on the fence.

    I was friends with a girl for about a year, when one day we somehow got on the topic of abortion and she told me she had one. At this time I wasn't exactly against it but I asked her if she was comfortable with her decision, she said " Oh it didn't hurt that much, just a little for like a second ", I asked her why she decided to and she answered " Cause if I had the kid it'd grow up in crap and ruin my life ", and then I stated " Yeah but you don't know what it'd grow up as " and this is what really got to me, her reply was " I know, it's dead ". That's always stuck with me.

    I told a few friends of mine and one of my friends told me a similair story where he found no remorse from his friend who had an abortion. Now I know that's just two people, but I'm sure there are many more women like that who have no remorse for their actions same as murderers.
     
  11. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    I dare think there is a Canadian image. Same as how there's an American image.
     
  12. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    I am not a religious man, I believe the leader of a nation should decide. I am entitled to my opinion, and as others I can attempt to turn my opinion into law, anyone can.
     
  13. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    I'm an immigrant, but my parents are beneficial immigrants as they are both highly educated doctors which Canada needs badly. I am a quarter Russian, Polish, Germany and Hungarian, but I wish I was pure because people need to be seperated and keep their own cultures. The idea of the world being one race was created by hippies in the 60s and their idiotic preaching of peace and love. It should be like the good ol days when one people did all they could to become the best.
     
  14. Komokwa

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    One race is much more about biology then anything else. there is no such thing as races in humans and I can prove this with science. We are all the same.

    If you do not believe that Canada was built by poor immigrants then you have allot to learn.

    by the way what is Canada's Image?
     
  15. shutterfly

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    It's not that I think the world should all be one race, nor do I think it ever will be, I'm just not opposed to mixing it up. Like I said, you don't need to be a certain race to practice a certain culture or lifestyle. You don't need to belong to one race to be able to identify with one or many. People should strive to become the best at whatever they endeavor to do or be as people not as a race. I think it's dangerous to say races should band together to be the best of their kind. That's why racism exists. That's why Hitler did what he did, because he felt his people were under threat of the jews so he chose to 'save' the purity his kind by obliterating them. It hasn't ever worked nor will it ever. What I think you're really saying is that the world needs to balance out. There are parts of the world that are incredibly dense with people and others that are not and if everybody spread out a bit then all economies and peoples may thrive. That makes more sense to me then bringing more people into the world, as I am still of the opinion that this world does not need more people, we just need balancing. Also, many great people are born into poverty stricken third world countries and grow up to be brilliant contributors to a better world. As one who acknowledges not knowing one's potential before they are born you should also ponder the idea that there are many great people living in and coming out of these third world countries you seem to not favor. These country's governments and enemies have much to do with why they are in the state that they are. Intelligence, brilliance and ability are not priviledges reserved for the elite first world nations.
     
  16. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    Ok. At this point, I cannot believe we are even entertaining this RTard. He's racist, sexist, and just plain dense.

    He's not really responding to what we say anyways. Huck Finn-Laden was more entertaining than this twatmonkey.
     
  17. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    No, Hitler tried to kill the Jews because he was insane. His idea of Germans ruling the world was no worse than Napoleon's idea of the French ruling the world. There will never be such a war though because we have reached a point where nations such as the U.S., Britain and Russia have nukes and know they will enver be able to rule the world. However they can still invade and takeover countries that don't have nukes or good weapons. Africa wouldn't be so poor if the Colonial nations didn't strip the land of most of its resources and then left it behind like that.


    I never said that.
     
  18. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    Wow, I guesse because you're 9 years older than me you're oh so much smarter and open minded, you're like most people nowadays who think they're right and spit on those who dissagree with them. Just because you have many others who support you doesn't mean you're right, the majority is seldom ever right. Keep that in mind.

    Also, I have tried to respond to all the posts posted, if you just scrolled through the pages of this topic you'd know.
     
  19. sunshine and pearls

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    first I must say that Max.....is not my kind of fellow and a sexist and seeming racist...blah, blah, blah..
    I will say I have a very hard time with the abortion issue, only because I could never do it myself the guilt and pain would be too much for me to handle...I do support adoption and suppose I am a prolifer,sorry girls, but I do think if one chooses the abortion route they are the ones to live with the choice and I never hate people for doing something that I wouldn't do or don't agree with.
    Max...you've got problems, if "races" per say do not mix ever genetic pools get too low and birth defect and other problems arise...the more cultures mix the bigger the gene pool, which in turn leads to healthier, more intelligent people in the world. a higher sense of unity in man kind. and from scientific report most of the world will be one color in the future which is great as far as I'm concerned.
    I for one find it offensive that you think that purity of "race" is so important, considering that I am white and native american, my husband is white and hispanic our children are all three "races" and my foster/potential adoptive son who is half african american and white. this family is perfection to me and my gene pool will bring love and intelligence to a world full of bigots and freaks like you.
    must be sad that even the prolifers can't deal with someone like you spouting sexist, racist, comments with your delusions of gradure.
    love to everyone.
     
  20. Komokwa

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    you do change and learn a lot in 9 years, I am much smarter and more open minded then when I was 19. and hopefully the same will happen to you because you have much to learn.


    If you are trying to respond to all post then please answer my question on what Canada's image is.
     
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