Abortion

I have actually known some women who did not want children but their significant other did. They went ahead and became pregnant, the men took full responsibility for taking care of the women when they were sick or couldn't get around, and once the babys were born, delivered by the men in question with help from a Dr., those women went out and got jobs and lives and left the men home to be the parents. It seemed to work well enough. That actually only requires 9 months out of a womans life, instead of a lifetime...

 

I am surprised that your respect for human life is that low. You don't think that the woman should take responsibility for participating in an act which purpose is to produce life?

 

No, I'm pretty sure a woman who has an abortion wanted to because she took the time to go to a clinic and make an appointment and have the premature child killed off. If I don't want to eat an apple I won't, if I do I'll take the time to pick one out, wash it and eat it.

I'm okay with abortion before the first heartbeat, because fact is that once something has a heart it's alive, of course everything is made up of cells which are clearly alive so in that sense abortion is never right because the child is always alive since conception, however I think a working heart puts the stamp on it.

 

Capitalism is by far the biggest reason why we're having all these problems and overpopulation, and also the development of democracy and Universal Human Rights. It's ironic how trying to create a better world we all screwed it up.

 

Democracy allows a nation to be set in a direction by the average joe, not a good thing, example, United States.

Human Rights are contradictory, human rights for a 10 time rapist is the same as human rights for a hard working doctor, think about that now.

 

So you don't want the government controlling your body, yet you want the government to give the ok for women to murder the child in theirs. During the days of slavery here in America, there were people against slavery, yet they took the view, that is was not there right to tell another man what he should do with his slaves. As you can see, they believed your same lame arguement. They to were against slavery, but were pro-choice.

 

Just to remind those reading this, click the link below to see what a great choice is being made here.

http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/abortionimages/abort04.jpg

 

Thanks for that little piece of beauty. You might get the same reaction to a pic of a bag full of dead puppies, cows eyeballs, and deer guts... You are responsible for taking life every time you eat. It's all horrible on one level or another. We have to kill to live. Pics like that are designed to create emotional reactions. The reality is, we can create upset and emotion directed at anyone or any group we wish simply by putting up the appropriate sickening pictures in enough gross detail... Ever see the Passion of Christ?

 

That is exactly what I said when Skip repeatedly posted pictures of dead Iraqis.

 

Killing for food is one thing and God put these animals here for that reason, killing a child because you don't want it, is something else. And pics like that should create an emotional reaction if you value a human life. It is the pratice of abortion that is sickening, the picture is just showing what you support. And yes I did see the Passion of Christ, and the same evil that killed Christ is now trying to justify the killing of children by abortion.

 

See here is the problem, you see no difference between a human being and a house cat. They are both equal in your eyes. However, you appear to consider the killing of an animal as wrong, yet the killing of an unborn human you believe is a necessary evil. Years ago in India people were dieing of starvation while cattle walked passed them. They did not believe it was right to kill the cattle to save either their sons or daughters. This is they same kind of ignorance you are embracing. And this is the same kind of ignorance that comes from those who have rejected the Bible. Because the Bible will tell you, that God created animals to be used for food. If you think I would let my son die to save the life of a rabbit, then you must be out of your mind.

 

Im not going to get wrapped up in this one, but wanted to let you know this...
My stance on abortion is-i have no problem with it, if done for the right reasons (rape, too young, not ready, emotionally unbalanced, no family or support, doesnt like babies or children, is cruel etc) Although i DO believe the AGE at which a foetus can be aborted should be lowered...a baby who could LIVE if given help being aborted is pretty gruesome, sick and unnecessary (a woman would KNOW by then, and should carry to full term and have the child adopted)

Anyway, my point is about what you said...No, it wouldnt be like saying it would have been ok to kill me. To me, i was not "me" while i was a foetus the age at which i believe abortion is right. But even if i was...if it was better for the mother, father, and the other people who ALREADY existed on Earth to have me aborted, id say fine, go ahead.

To me, a soul is never killed, even if by some chance a zygote or miniature foetus CAN be a soul...i have more faith in life than that.

 

Well the reason I follow the Bible is because I believe that the more time passes, the more evidence is coming in to prove that this Book is the Word of God. Also I have had some real dramatic experiences with the person who authored this Book, and I know myself who He is. And yes biologically we do share some of the same traits as animals. However, the Bible tells us we are different in that Man has a spirit that will live on long after the animal has passed away. My faith is built on knowledge of a person who is a God of Wonder, and a God who has moved deeply in my life. Jesus Christ is more than just a historical figure to me, I have heard His voice.

 

Abortion, while unfortunate, is a choice that can be legally made by the woman carrying the child. This choice is often not easy for the woman but it may be necessary.

 

What the HELL makes you think that humans are so much more special than any other living organism? Could it be SELF AWARENESS? Because if that's it, then realize that an unborn child HAS NO SELF AWARENESS.

How about if I worship Zechariah Sitchen, because I truely believe that HIS books are the ultimate truth?

I also believe in reincarnation, and I am certain that some people's spirits come back in animals. I've spent my whole life hangin' with animals, raising animals, training animals, breeding animals. Many of them act like people I know. You will probably come back as a goat. Some of the most stubborn critters in existance, and obsessed with anything you don't want them into.

And which "GOD" are you referring to? Because if you read Genesis, you will find that there were many more than one. And they were all about having sex with earth women...

 

I agree with shutterfly.

There is absolutely no genetic differences between different coloured people so all people are pure blood and i also agree that there are to many people on this planet no matter the colour

 

Hearing voices is sometimes a symptom of a serious problem.

 

Hearing voices is indeed a psychological problem and can be severe if you listen to them

 

The book of Romans must not be part of your bible.

"The creature itself shall also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together, until now."(Romans 8:21,22)

...or Revelations:

"I saw a throne standing in heaven, and the One who was sitting on the throne.... Round the throne in a circle I saw twenty-four elders sitting...In the center, grouped round the throne itself, were four animals...The first animal was like a lion, the second like an ox, the third animal had a human face and the fourth animal was like a flying eagle...and day and night they never stopped singing: Holy, Holy, Holy, is the Lord God, the Almighty. Every time the animals glorified and honoured and gave thanks to the One sitting on the throne, the twenty-four elders prostrated themselves before him to worship the One..."(Rev. 4:2-9)

 

Hey i guess you don't believe in evolution. But just incase you do.. where along the line of our evolution do you think we turned 'human'? Was there a stage where we suddenly aquired souls? Where do you draw the line between animal and human?