Abortion

Bustramp, Thats almost too much to wrap my head around.

Now I see a cartoon of tiny little fetuses picketing outside an abortion clinic with signs that say "I deserve to be born, even if my life will be a living hell..." or "who cares about mom? I demand my rights at all costs".

Which is hilarious, because I cannot imagine that a tiny fetus is either able to comprehend what life is all about, nor understand the concept of death, nor is it able to walk or read or carry signs. Ignorance is bliss. Perhaps we do them the ultimate service by keeping them from being born into such a hard and cruel world. Their first sensations in life are being squeezed nearly to death, slapped on the butt, bright lights hurt their eyes, and many of the boys have to deal with the excruciating pain of circumcision. (for cosmetic purposes I was told by one nurse). Then, there is diaper rash, colic, spitting up constantly, everything is scary or painful and you are totally helpless to do anything about it, constantly being poked by needles at the doctor..... And even in the best of families many of them spend their lives growing up being screamed at, threatened with "ass beatings" among other things, controlled and manipulated at every turn, fed all manner of poisons disguised as food, tortured in school by a system that believes children should spend most of their awake time being penned up like rats indoors and be totally "behaved" at all times at risk of more threats of punishment...... I could go on and on, but we've all been there to one degree or another. Oh yes, all those unborn and un-knowing and unpolluted fetuses should be forced to go thru what we all have. They would certainly be better off, right? Maybe that would make some of you feel better.

Oh yea, and I have first hand knowledge of some of those so-called christians. Church 5 times a week, but disavow any connections with blood family members if you don't approve of their lifestyle... Maybe we should send all those pure and unspoilt fetuses to church too, I'm sure it will make them better people.

Oh, just in case you don't get it, that's humor.

 

Soo you're saying death is better than life?


Bustramp:leaving:

 

somtimes...think about it....if you had a choice to be born in this world, would you? I wouldnt

And I mean no offense, but a man has NO idea about being pregnant

 

Awwww man its up to the woman, if she feels she cant cope then she cant

 

In the days before Roe vs Wade abortion was legal in some states but only if the mother's life was at risk as diagnosed by a physician. This was true in Texas where Roe was from. (And I have no problem with this.) Roe wanted an abortion anyway and took it to the supreme court. (Abortion as a means of birth control) Roe won the case but did not have an abortion. That's the real reason we have abortion in the US, it's a means of birth control. It's not about rape or mother's life at risk or financially insecure mothers because the annual rate of abortion per year in the US is 1.5 million. Believe me there's not 1.5 million rape or mothers' life at risk or financially insecure mothers. The current law states "abortion for any reason".

That's why it's abortion on demand as a form of birth control. I feel it's irresponsible, it's murder and it's a generally POOR view of human life.


Bustramp

 

What reasons do the pro-choice people think are justifiable to execute an abortion? Besides the before mentioned rape victim and health of the mother.

 

here is the thing that makes abortion a good thing to have available: if we were to outlaw abortion, woman would go back to doing what they did before it was here.... hangers and shit in back roads, they would often die or become mutilated unfuckable "areas" i think its a wrong thing to do but its better then having butchers. but if someone does get one, they should allow the baby's stem cells to be used for science, if your going to take a life, at least take it to save another.

 

I have stated this before....

you cannot be the judge of someone
you cannot have any comprehension of one person's situation and be judgemental about it....all of you are extremely judgemental

what about the children that are brought into this world and are left, dumped, abused, neglected??? To me, that is a bigger sin/wrong than abortion

 

and i am an advocate for stem cell use... good point mushroomherb up there

 

Again it appears! You're saying death is better than life!

Bustramp

 

True! women would seek illegal means to abortion. But the number would be far less than the current 1.5 million abortions per year in the US. I think that we should modify the abortion law, restrict it to woman whose lives are at risk and give rape victims the choice.

Bustramp

 

yes. I already answered this if you would just take the time and read.
If I had the choice, in the womb, knowing what i know, i would choose to NOT come into this world. would you?

 

by all means, bustramp, I respect your opinion. Im just hoping that you will see the other side of this issue.

 

Yes I read it but I did not think you would state it like that and yes I would choose to come into this world.


Bustramp

 

I respect your view...you are correct
but can you understand the flipside? This is an issue where no one is concretely right as is no one concretely wrong. you must not condone people for what they believe is correct

 

What do you think of women that have had multiple abortions because they have unprotected sex and simply do not want a child? Sure it is their choice, but what do you think of the moral issues in a circustance such as this?

 

i would also like to add something i just thought about while reading replies: let any pregnant woman get an abortion, but make it a requirement to take an abortion class that includes a video of an abortion, then ask them again if they want to have the procedure. i think it would reduce the number of abortions while educating the people that will have it done.

 

And I respect yours, I wouldn't condemn anybody and I hope I didn't give that impression, I sometimes state my opinion harshly and use strong language. Abortion is a complex and sensitive issue and must be dealt with carefully. One must especially consider women's feelings when dealing with abortion.

Bustramp

 

its her choice. its her body. so what if a woman does not feel that she is capable of rearing a child(or giving it away)?

what moral issues do you mean?

 

No moral issue, just a sensitive issue, people get so hot.

Bustramp