ABORTION....?! yay or nay?!!

If you feel this way then you also need to abstain from sex until you are ready to raise a baby. From the threats and language of your post it is obvious to see you aren't even close to that point yet.

 

I didn't!

...And that wasn't nice of you calling me a donkey.

 

I wasnt talking to you

 

And if you yes to abortion then fuck it why not go for cannablism??!

And cancer KILLS YOU!! It doesn't create another life.

I myself am pro-choice, if sombody wants an abortion for whatever reason then they need to be allowed the choice. Although i'm not sure I could do it myself, if I got pregnant now then I would consider it because i'm pretty young to be having a baby, but i'm not sure if I could actually do it. I'd love to have kids one day and the idea of having an abortion just because having the child at that point in my life was inconveniet, makes me feel a bit sick.

 

I fuck but with condoms, if by some freak accident that condom broke and I had a kid I would rather take care of it than have it killed.. it would be our consequence for fuckin without protection thats just how it goes.

that kid is your responsibility.. you cant just fuck... get pregnant... rip the thing out crush its skull... and go fuck again....
thats really fucked up.

 

I guess I don't quite always see it that way.

 

Well I think that if abortion is going to be legal, i think it shouldn't SOLELY be left up to the woman, I think the father should have as much say in it as she does.

If the father really wants to be a father and the woman doesnt want the kid at all, then at least she should have to go through with the pregnancy and give full custody to the father or something. It shouldn't ALL be up to the woman, that's unfair. TWO people make the child, NOT ONE.

 

I didn't flip out.

Wow. Some people here really take shit too personally. I was just making a point, chill the fuck out.

 

Yeah it is a little different, so why don't you think about what you're saying before you actually say it.

 

I'm not flipping out...

My point is just that abortion is something that is political, because it affects everyone who lives in that certain land/territory/country/state whatever. And my point is...not everyone is Christian, or Buddhist, or whatever, so you can't mix that with something like abortion. Like, yeah, the religion might have their stance on it, but it's not something you can bring into the actual decision of it in my opinion.

Seriously, I am not flipping out, I'm just making a point that even if your religion has a certain stance on the subject, it's not totally right to do that. If say more than half of the people in the government are christian and decide to outlaw abortion, mainly for relgious reasons, HOW is that religious freedom to the people who are not that particular relgion?

Like, atheists for example.

Maybe this doesn't make sense to someone who IS religious, I'm not sure, because I don't share that perspective... but, I'm saying, people have to understand that just because you may believe that such and such a thing is right or not right for religious reasons, doesn't mean that other people hold those same beliefs.

 

You know what gets me...
People like, Dubya, who are all for capital punishment, and military/war but are Pro-Life.

How the fuck can you be pro-life but agree with other issues that KILL humans?!

 

As a male, I do not have a right to an opinion on this issue - if you do not play the game do not make the rules. However, there are a few facts
1. “ I’ve heard that 90% of neurosis/mental illness is sexual frustration” - if only it were that easy - we have no idea what causes most neurosis/mental illness.
2. Abortions are easy - you need a speculum, a set of dilators, a curette and some sterile lube - that is it - any nurse or well read layperson could do one. Theefore, like drugs, making them against the law seems foolish. Do we really need something else to put people in jail for, we (the US) have more people in jail than anywhere else in the world (as a percentage of population)as it is.

 

Of course, since males have nothing to do with reproduction rights, parental rights(child support if she decides on her own not to abort) or social norms, privacy rights....

 

You guys SHOULD have rights regarding this, as I said before it takes a woman AND a man to make a baby. Not just a woman.

 

RE: If a girl i got pregnant ever had an abortion
her body would never be found.

Let me see if I understand you correctly.

You are opposed to abortion because you believe it's murder and murder is wrong, and yet you see nothing wrong with murdering a grown woman?

 

I would think it is rare that a woman has an abortion without the father knowing. WHen that is the case, I assume that in most cases the woman doesn't know the father or the father is long gone. That, or the father is a relative or something and there is abuse going on. I would think that these cases far overwhelm the cases where a woman just doesn't care what the father thinks.

If in a relationship, women usually tell the father when they're pregnant. I'm not saying that it always happens that way, but that IS the norm.

 

I take your point, and it is of course correct. However, do you not tire of seeing men on the front lines waving signs during a pro or anti abortion debate? For what little my opinion is worth I think that decisions on childbirth belong to the mother who would ideally seek input from the father. However, my major input is that forbidding aborting is like forbidding the growing of pot and we all know how well that has worked. I am old enough to have seen the time that
abortions were not legal and that Arkansas Women’s Rights would hold parties to raise money for poor females to fly to New York. Abortion laws have never stopped the people with money from getting abortions they only make it more dangerous and expensive for poor woman to get them.

 

biologists do...

 

I get sick of seeing people picketing about abortion in general.
I believe it to be a deeply personal issue between a person/family and their doctor.

I personally feel there are better alternatives, but what would I hope to gain by stand in front of a clinic berating and condemning?

I can only hope further sexual education, proper use of birth control and maybe even abstinence (it's not just for fundies) will further decrease the problem of having an unwanted pregnancy in the first place.

Better to not be in that situation at all.

I also feel that men should not be afraid to voice their opinions on reproductive rights, it's NOT just a women's issue.

 

I feel that the government has no place in telling us what is "moral." I don't relish the idea of ending a pregnancy, but I do feel that such a decsion should remain in the control of the woman who is pregnant not some right-wing hypocrites.