Abortion Misinformation?

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by TheRealPamela, Mar 30, 2006.

  1. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    "Zygote" refers to the single-cell stage of development that immediately follows conception. This stage lasts only about 24 hours. By the time of implantation, you don't have a "zygote," but a "blastocyst," which refers to the earliest embryonic stage:

    http://www.ortl.org/publications/articles.php?articleID=156

    http://www.visembryo.com/baby/stage4.html

    http://www.online-medical-dictionary.org/omd.asp?q=blastocyst


    Once again, "zygotes" don't implant. Moreover, these hormonal changes are triggered by conception, undermining the notion that pregnancy begins at implantation:

    http://www.annalsnyas.org/cgi/content/abstract/442/1/551

    http://www.earlypregnancy.org/EPBM/EPBM%20IV/Vol.%20IV,%20Num%203/EPBM1293.htm

    http://www.endotext.com/female/female13/femaleframe13.htm

    http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/3/1/113
     
  2. Charise

    Charise Naked to the Cosmos

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    You know, as a woman, I think all women instinctively know, when they discover that they are pregnant, that they are carrying another life inside them-I'd just like to make that point without getting into some endless scientific debate. I also think that the whole issue of abortion in the US has become unnecessarily politicized, which is very unfortunate. Many women/people believe that in order to be 'pro-life' that they have to support the Republicans, the party of war, fascism, big money, and insensitivity to the needs of human beings. This is very, very, unfortunate. If the politicians that are 'pro-life' were not at the same time so pro-war and pro-death in so many other ways, the whole pro-life movement might have a lot more credibility politically. Personally, I would not piss on the Republicans if they were on fire. I wouldn't even call the fire dept. To me, it's simple-life is life. I'm a vegetarian, I don't believe in killing animals for our own expediency or comfort or whatever, and I feel the same about unborn children. I know what some women go through that get pregnant, I fully realize that it's not a real simple world we live in. But like the poster a few posts up said, there's always adoption.
     
  3. TheRealPamela

    TheRealPamela Member

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    The original post was about that specific website and your input about it (whether is was being responsible, etc)
    The post is not an actual abortion debate. Go to the other thousand posts on hipforums about the ethics/opinions regarding abortion (this is not to anyone in particular and I also do ot want this to come off as mean or intolerant). I was posting because I am sure there are a thousand pretend sites like the one I posted giving mostly true "info" to scare young women and it is discouraging.
     
  4. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    Nobody has shown that any of the information is untrue. We've gotten into a semantic debate about the definitions of "abortion" and "pregnancy." The fact that the morning-after pill can kill a newly formed embryo by preventing implantation is not in dispute.
     
  5. TheRealPamela

    TheRealPamela Member

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    The information was mostly not untrue but the phrasing and the implication that the side effects were only from said procedures, etc and the fact that they overstated the abortion-depression and abortion-breast cancer link to scare women was a topic that is important. Also the fact it mentions ones relationship with god should be a god indication...no legit medical website would do that.
     
  6. HuckFinn

    HuckFinn Senior Member

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    It doesn't claim to be a medical site per se, but a compilation of abortion-related information and advice from a pro-life perspective.

    As for the risks, they're very real. Here are a couple of examples:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4520576.stm

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/05/15/nabort15.xml
     

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