The only reason I think abortions should be legal is that making them illegal won't do anything - any woman who's so afraid of having a baby that she would kill it will certainly find somebody to perform the abortion illegally, which is quite dangerous. It's a terribly digusting thing to do, but if you force somebody to have a baby that doesn't want one, it is probably going to have a hellish, neglected childhood. But I'd hope that anyone who has an abortion lives with crippling guilt for the rest of her life, considering she is selfish enough to have sex without a condom (hell, you don't even need a condom - just take the goddamn pill), with no consideration for the life she might create in the process.
There have been several ongoing attempts in Congress to legalize research cloning. I agree that there should be strict controls on destruction of human embryos by private companies. I believe the President's Council on Bioethics has grappled with many of these issues. How has the federal government directly funded IVF labs? If strict regulation of IVF procedures curtails the practice, then so be it. The experience of Poland appears to indicate otherwise: http://www.ortl.org/life_in_oregon/00_12/back_alley.html
Cool - makes things alot easier. I don't understand why babies can't just be put up for adoption by parents that will care about them rather than murdering them.
Because they will be bounced around from foster home to foster home most of their lives and wind up being closer to a hitler than an eintstien... Face it, there really isn't much of a market for black babies or children with disabilites.
But what has the panel done to put real requirements on the private industry to reduce the number of destroyed embryos? .
Through NIH, particularly in the 90s. People think that Clinton banned NIH funding for IVF but he didn't. The ban was only on using embryos for research purposes, not for making babies. In any event, why should we believe a ban on federal funding for IVF or embryonic stem cell research will make things any better? The private sector will continue to do it and without, for the most part, restrictions by the federal government. If anything, the lack of funding by the federal government takes away the strings that could be attached to such funding, such as supporting IVF methods to reduce frivelous destruction of embryos. If federal funding were used in the right way, it could actually improve the situation. The private sector is pretty much free to do as it wishes with IVF in the U.S. right now and often performs in a way that leads to frivelous losses due to pressures in the market to succeed. It's naive to think that we can wash our hands of the matter simply by banning federal funding. .
It's not going to happen, though. Too much money is made from "Fertility Therapy." The average couple spends between $20,000 and $100,000 to have a live baby. And the embryos which die in the process (and these procedures simply can't be done without embrionic loss) are not even thought about, as the same people who are rabidly "Pro-life" in the government are the same people who make money off of the hospital, clinics and pharmaceutical companies which promote MORE usage of and development of these technologies.
Anyone know how many embryos have been destroyed since the late 70s due to in vitro? I don't know of any federal law requiring IFV clinics to report embryo destruction data. It appears to be done quietly. There may not even be an accurate figure on it. I know there's about 400,000 frozen embryos right now in the U.S. I would expect the number that have been destroyed to be much higher than that. I'd like to see that number compared with the number of embryos that have been used to create stem cell lines. .
if the woman didn't have a choice about the sex, give her the choice, if she however chose to have sex, her fuck up, more money can be put into social service programs, I don't intend to have sex until I'm married, that is my opinion and so I have no right to go about trying to lay some woman, I'd be a hypocrite...
First of all, there's no shortage of adoptive homes for racial minorities. If there were, countless couples wouldn't be adopting kids from overseas. Second, most abortions kill healthy babies. Do you have any real numbers? Which pro-lifers are making money from IVF?
I don't have names. (They don't normally give them out.) But many of these clinics are related to hospitals and drug companies in which rich white Republicans have stock in. WHY isn't there more outcry about all the embryos, abandoned and destroyed by these cliinics by the Right? The people who would make the outcry aret making money off of the invitro and other procedures.
No. It's difficult to trace that type of thing. One would have to look at all the projects of NIH and any other federal agencies where funding went to IVF. It's even more difficult to put a number on how many embryos have been destroyed in the private sector since IVF began. .
I know a lot of grass roots prolifers are opposed to it, but I was more refering to big government politicians, who talk and talk against abortion, yet never mention IVF or other technologies, and these people are often big holders in Medical Tec and drug companies which support these technologies. I'm, personally, on the fence about IVF, I know people who it has helped have kids, I also get very upset when I see someone, who has a litter and gets free houses and cars and formula and even volunteers to do day care and doesn't have to pay their multi million dollar hosptial NICU bill, when people who have kids one or two at a time never get these perks paid for by anyone but themselves. I have four kids, I wanna new van! But I can''t because I didn't have them all in one fell swoop!
normally - no rape- yes incest- yes if child or mother is in danger- yes if child will be retarded, deformed, etc.- yes (thats mean but how i feel)
beethoven would have been the seventh son of a syphalytic woman, was minorly deformed and his mother had 2 prior miscarriages remember that next time you're listening to the fifth....
