A well thought-out argument against anti-evolutionists

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  1. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    ''If there is strong evidence to support the Bible, we will ignore it, and refute that evidence with our theory of non evidence.'' = EVOLUTION.
     
  2. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    <stick fingers in ears and says "Nannuh nah nuh-nah nuh!">
     
  3. joshlipe1986

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    O my, o my! Evolutionists always make stupid remarks like this when they know THEY have been soundly beaten and have nothing more to say. Tell me this how do evolutionists reply to the Cambrian Explosion when all of the fossils appear in the earth at the same time. And some evolutionist like to use the chart with all of the different embryos that all look the same but the truth is that the guy who made that chart took embryos that werent from the same stage and just looked alike (for example he might have took an aligator embryo at its 2 stage and compared it to a bat embryo at its 1 stage). Then some evolutionist like to talk about the four winged fruit fly but the answer to that is that is only can live in labaroty conditions or in other words it cannot survive in the wild. And then the big one- Darwins finches. The real truth is that he observed microevolution and not macroevolution or in other words changes within a species according to its surroundings. They dont teach you that when the conditions of their habitat returned to its natural state then the beaks on the finches returned to their natural size. Evolution from one specie to another is not possilbe and never was. But if evolutionist want to believe that they were once monkeys then be my guest. Me on the other hand take pride to know that I didnt come from a monkey and I am part of the greatest species on earth. Bam-Checkmate, Point-Set-Match
     
  4. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    Well stated, Joshlipe1986. Good game.
     
  5. MrRee

    MrRee Senior Member

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    Pardon me, but what you claim to "know" is nothing other than your own preferred (biassed?) belief.
    Tha accepted "God" may have been an alien who gene spliced ape genetic material with "alien" genetic material to "create" a new species man.
    Life itself could even be something like a virus that impregnates matter and forms living tissue in various forms for all we "know".
    No one actaully "knows" how and why life arose, or how and why it continues, or if we are or are not commonly related to simians. There are, however, many unsubstantiated beliefs, of which yours is but one more.
    The only thing that we really know is that life somehow lives in or through us.
    Belief is not knowledge by any stretch of the imagination. Unless of course imagination is over-stretched!
    "Bam-Checkmate, point-set-match"? ~ dream on!
     
  6. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Actually retard, I was making fun of both sides (Creationists and Evolutionists). But now you got my attention focused on you... dumbass..

    "This stunning and unique evolutionary flowering is termed the "Cambrian explosion," taking the name of the geological age in whose early part it occurred. But it was not as rapid as an explosion: the changes seems to have happened in a range of about 30 million years, and some stages took 5 to 10 million years. " from http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/03/4/l_034_02.html

    What do you think of the past 100 years of life on this planet (it took ~30 million years for the cambrian "explosion" to take place- look at all the new "technological forms" God has made with man in the last 100 years- what do you think creationists would say about this period of time if they could look at a fossil record 700 million years in the future- do you think they would deny coming from these origins?)

    How do you know if God created you out of monkeys or through some other method? God has placed plenty of evidence to support evolution in the world- do you think God is trying to deceive mankind, or educate mankind? Can you except that you come from humble beginings (monkeyboy) or are you full of foolish pride and say "I am born of God, there is no humility in my being!"?

    I think it's cool that God taught me the theory of evolution. It's a good story that can teach you about the depths of God's intelligence and love.
     
  7. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    God has placed plenty of evidence to support Evolution?
    I know supports of Evolution have come up with a lot of phony evidence which they had to acknoledge latter after the brass band passed. But show us the Evidence that God has left us. I don't recall anything about monkeys in the creation story. The Bible states that God made man in His Image. Are you saying God looks like and ape, and now we have moved on to where we are today. Just wondering.
     
  8. Colours

    Colours Senior Member

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    the bible is not evidence
     
  9. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    In the natural world. Of course, God could have purposefully made monkeys genetics very similar to ours to tease us.
    If you continue to deny the evidence is true, what is the point? You aren't going to learn unless you repent, admit you were wrong, and open your heart to what God is trying to teach you.

    Creation Fable... it's called a Fable.
    God can be far hotter than any man or women. I'd think our current bodies are about as attractive to the spirits of heaven as a monkeys body is to us. Look at yourself in the mirror. Do you think your body accurately portrays the glory of God (your spirit might, but your natural body sure as hell doesn't).
     
  10. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Actually it is. You just have to understand it. Some people mature quicker than others...
     
  11. campbell34

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    The Bible speaks of historical events which in recent days are being realized as true. Thr Red Sea crossing site is one, and Mount Sinia is another. The events and artifacts described in the scriptures, are being found by divers, and explorers alike. These descoveries are solid evidences that what the scriptures have described, were accurate and did happen.
     
  12. campbell34

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    You say the Creation Fable is called a fable. Could you show me where you have read this. And if evoultion is true, why are they finding human artifacts in 100 million year old coal? According to Evolution humans showed up about 3 million years ago.
     
  13. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    No, but Jesus did say not to get caught up in Jewish fables (creation myths) or endless genealogies (evolution) that are not conducive to godly edifying that is in faith. Look at how obsession with proving eachother wrong has harmed both the faith of some (scientists) and the understanding of others (creationists).
    Really? Human artifacts in 100 million year old coal? That's awesome. If the artifacts are genuine, they are evidence that God planted them within the coal, with or without humans living on earth at the time.
     
  14. campbell34

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    The stories Jesus tells us are not fables but the truth. And human artifacts in 100 million year old coal is not evidence for God planting it there but rather science not understanding the fact that the earth is much younger than they could of believed. And that is the same reason science is now finding dinosaur bones with soft tissue. Up till now science said after 10,000 years soft tissue would not appear because of age. Yet now they are saying soft tissue can be found on bones that are 70 million years old. Give me a break.
     
  15. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    im not just going to take your word for it...but do you have any scriptures you could show me...

    or hints to point me in the right direction if thats your fancy :p
     
  16. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    I said "...Jesus did say not to get caught up in Jewish fables....". I was quoting Paul (not Jesus, sorry...). The apostle Paul said "Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. " and "Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth."
    Anyways- they were parables:
    Matthew 13:3
    "3And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow; "
    Matthew 13:10
    "And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? "
    parable: a usually short fictitious story that illustrates a moral attitude or a religious principle
    Now read the definition of fable: a fictitious narrative or statement: as a : a legendary story of supernatural happenings b : a narration intended to enforce a useful truth; especially : one in which animals speak and act like human beings (serpent in the garden)

    Jesus spoke to us in Parables, which are short ficticious stories. You do understand that fiction is not the truth? However, it can be used to illustrate the truth to those with a discerning heart.

    Anything you find anywhere is evidence that God caused it to be there. Even a leaf stuck under your windshield wiper blade was put there by God.
    You are grasping at straws and closing your heart to the truth, if your heart was open, you would not need to be retaught that Jesus spoke in parables.
    Sure. Grow up. The mysteries of God are not completely described in the bible, or it would have described electricity, nuclear power, gravity, quantuum electrodynamics, biology, genetics, etc. down to the last minute detail. The bible doesn't have to do that because God shows us these things when we look for them. When we get an answer right (e=mc^2), it reveals and brings to light new mysteries of God, that God has provided for us for our joy and love.
    Our understanding of evolutionary genetics will give us even greater control over our bodies, the bodies God gave us to learn about and control. Of course, as with any new knowledge, there are false starts, mistakes, etc. Until we understand a concept we will have misconceptions about it. There are enough pieces of evidence that life is an interwoven tapestry of God's creation that I am not surprised to find other primates (monkeys) that have similar genetic code to us (humans) filling in an important nich in said tapestry.
    We should not ignore what God reveals in the world we are created in, even if it is unpalatable to some. If we did, the earth would still be the flat center of the universe with the sun and planets revolving around it (or at least we would believe this to be so).

    Do not let pride in your own "knowledge" prevent you from learning the truth.
     
  17. Dizzy Man

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    You could say that the Earth is the centre of the universe, since the universe has no centre, and every point in it is equally the centre, relative to all other points.
     
  18. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Gravitational center. (was implied by me saying 'sun and planets revolving around it')

    Does the earth revolve around the sun?
     
  19. FreakerSoup

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    Jesus doesn't tell stories. The bible tells stories, which may be completely true or completely false. Or somewhere in between.
     
  20. Dizzy Man

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    Actually, Jesus did tell some stories.

    I read about it in a book.
     

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