A well thought-out argument against anti-evolutionists

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by deadhead716, Mar 27, 2005.

  1. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    Well, if you believe that we are of the same worth as a house cat, then you don't understand who we are or why we are here. For that answer, you would have to understand the Bible.
     
  2. campbell34

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    Humans also have a soul which exist beyond their physical bodies.
     
  3. Colours

    Colours Senior Member

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    animals have souls too. How can you look at a loving puppy, having puppy dreams, and say he doesnt have a soul? Do you think ANimals are just robots put here for our amusment? selfish.
     
  4. gEo_tehaD_returns

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    There is a small overlap between the end of the homo erectus species and the first appearances of homo sapiens. All this means is that erectus was not yet extinct when sapiens began to walk the earth. Evolution is not controlled by some species-common clock that tells the entire species to move on "when the time comes." The conditions provided by nature evolve a species by slowly carving away at it with it's knife, natural selection. Because climate and living conditions are different in different regions of the earth, natural selection will work differently and at different speeds. Just because a group of homo erectus living in one region begins to evolve into modern humans doesn't mean that another in a different region must also begin to, or necessarily evolve into humans at all - nature in that area might favor their continued existence. It all depends on natural conditions.
     
  5. MrRee

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    Unless you were there at the time or can provide documentary evidence to the contrary, all of what you suggest is pure speculation that is biassed to accommodate belief over fact, none of which counters "The earth takes shape like clay under a seal." Job 38:14 ~ ie FLAT
     
  6. campbell34

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    Humans have the chance to be born again through Christ. Animals have been placed on the Earth to aid man, which is a matter of fact.
     
  7. campbell34

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    Well, I would say that you were the one who started to speculate first. I take what is written as a matter of fact, and did not try to make a scientific arguement from a reference which lacked detail or full explination. And I could speculate further by saying that the earth taking shape LIKE clay under a seal, may be a reference to gravity. There is simply not enought information in the text to draw and solid understand how the kingdoms were displayed. Yet you would tell me your speculation is correct, and my speculation would require documentary evidence. GIVE ME A BREAK.
     
  8. MrRee

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    You speak with forked tongue! This is no different to your approach, but it only works one way eh? GIVE IT A BREAK!!
     
  9. SpliffVortex

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    Jesus is dead is not coming back so dont hold your breath.
     
  10. campbell34

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    Small overlap? You mean a 2 Million Year overlap. You guys really know how to soft soap the facts don't you. And tell me, if this was the start of the human race, why are they finding man made objects enbeded in 100 million year old coal. Thats the problem with the believers in evolution, when they are confronted with facts that don't agree with their theory, they reject those facts or ignore them, and then attack the person who brings it to their attention. The fact is, scientist have not addressed those facts, because you do not get head in the scientific community by kicking the bosses dog.
    Evolution is a pet theory, and a well protected one at that. Many scientist have learned through intimidation, that if they want grant money and full employment, they better learn to keep their mouths shut when it comes to the Theory of Evolution. And what about those man made objects, and skeletal remains found in coal mines? Are those objects just a small overlap to?
     
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    Sorry, you started the speculation first, not me. You, trying to make a scientific statement from a Biblical story which obviously lacks important details, and then doing so in an attempt to disprove the Bible, clearly is a cheap shot.
     
  12. SpliffVortex

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    ill break it down for you = the jews were in no real danger as slaves for egyptians but yet moses shows up "the jews were in real danger in 1941 the allies show up not moses not jesus" jesus = he had not show up once in 2005 years . this to me hes a hell of a lot more proof than the evolution theory.
     
  13. MrRee

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    Just when i thought it was impossibl;e for you to come up with any more codswallop, there you go and blow it for me.
    You really are pretentious in you accusations, what with them fitting yourself far more perfectly than anyone else!
     
  14. campbell34

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    Let me break it down for you. Gods plan of salvation is much bigger the the Jewish people. Yet the Bible clearly states that God once again will use the Jewish people in the last days. What has happen to the Jews over the centuries was a result of their rejection of Jesus Christ. Yet the Bible states that in the time of the end the Jews will finally understand who Christ is. You will find this in Zech. 12. O.T. Prophecy.
     
  15. campbell34

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    2 Peter 3:3,4,5

    Know this first of all, that in the last days scoffers will come to scoff, living according to their own desires and saying, "Where is the promise of his coming? From the time when our ancestors fell asleep, everything has remained as it was from the beginning of creation." They deliberately ignore the fact that the heavens existed of old and earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God: through these the world that then existed was destroyed, deluged with water. The present heavens and earth have been reserved by the same word for fire, kept for the day of judgement and of destruction of the godless.
     
  16. SpliffVortex

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    shut hell up
     
  17. campbell34

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    Its Gods word that bothers you, not me. I'm just the messenger. God says the world hates the truth, and will turn from it.
     
  18. gEo_tehaD_returns

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    Uh. . .? The oldest Homo erectus we've found was at the most 1.5 million years old.

    http://www.archaeologyinfo.com/species.htm

    According to this theres an overlap of maybe 100,000.

    http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/species.html

    here a 200,000 year gap. The site also says this:

    "The skeleton and teeth are usually less robust than erectus, but more robust than modern humans. Many still have large brow ridges and receding foreheads and chins. There is no clear dividing line between late erectus and archaic sapiens, and many fossils between 500,000 and 200,000 years ago are difficult to classify as one or the other. "

    So where exactly are you getting your information anyway? Care to show us evidence of these 100 million year old man made objects?
     
  19. JesusDiedForU

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    If it is not God's word that doesn't bother anyone why is it that basically everyone on here is trying to prove it false? Everytime I come into the Christian forum, I see a crazy theory about Jesus, in attempt to discredit Him and the Bible. LOOK Campbell is doing what the Jesus taught, "Go into all the world and preach the good news." So yes Campbell is just the messanger so don't "kill" him and by no means does campbell have his own agenda on mind but God's. The TRUTH is the BIBLE is the TRUTH, but it doesn't matter because you will probably refuse to listen and close your ears.


    For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

    -1 Timothy 4:3,4
     
  20. gEo_tehaD_returns

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    "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."

    Christ, i could swear good old timmy was referring to christians, not putting up with sound doctrine and all.
     

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