A well thought-out argument against anti-evolutionists

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  1. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    What they are finding is the complexity of human cells is way beyond anything science had ever believed. This complexity has forced many to rethink what they had accepted for years. If you ever worked in a chemical factory you would understand how many systems are required to produce an end product. Many checks and balances with high level and low level alarms and devices to measure substances and distribute the same. Mixing chambers and endless processes. Endless wireing which tap into onboard computers with other computers watching over all. And yet all of this is nothing when compared to the human body. The human body is beyond anything ever imagined. As you get in to the details and it's inner workings, you realize that this did not come about by chance or accident, but would require an advanced knowledge beyond the scope of human thinking. The human body has a trillion combinations, and no one crosses the street until every check and balance is perfect. This kind of perfection, will not be realized by time or luck.
     
  2. campbell34

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    Only God knows for sure who loves Him, and who does not. But God in the end will choose those who do. Christ died for the sins of all the world past and present. When the day comes, and we stand before Him. He will know. The world knew about God long before the Bible. That's why every culture speaks about the story of the flood. When the Spanish landed in South America they were shocked to find out that the Indians already knew the flood story. God always works things out, even if it is beyond are present understanding.
     
  3. PhantomOpus

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    You're subscribing to the commonly held but incorrect notion that evolution = random.

    Go away until you know what you're talking about.
     
  4. PhantomOpus

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    That whole concept is totally ludicrous.

    So, what about the future?

    And if Jesus died for my sins, then everything I do is forgiven, right? After all, I may sin, but he died for it, so it's all good.
     
  5. campbell34

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    Yea, all the nomads would climb to the top of the mountain every night and start a camp fire, and after 1 million campfires they finally got the whole top of the granit mountain to turn black. WOW. Well it is different then Noah's Ark because the Saudi government now acknoledges that it is there, and we also have close up pictures of this place showing everything that is there. And everything which the bible spoke about can be seen in the photographs, and the movies that have been made. This is not a myth, we have the evidence, but how many really want to see it.
     
  6. MrRee

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    Pope Leo X, Catholic Encyclopedia vol.IX, p163 ~
    "How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us."

    Bishop (Biscop) Eusebius (260-339): Ecclesiastical History, Eusebius, vol.I, pp.381-382 ~
    "It is an act of virtue to deceive and lie, when by such means the interests of the church might be promoted."

    Dr James Donaldson; History of Early Christian Literature, Edinburgh edition ~
    "Like all the rest of the Christians of his time, Eusebius was utterly unethical in his estimates of evidence, and where he, as it were, translated the language of others into his own, not using their words but his own assumption of their meaning, he is almost invariably wrong. Every statement which he makes himself is unreliable".

    T.W. Doane; Bible Myths and Their Parallels in Other Religions (1882) ~
    "Besides forging, lying, and deceiving the people for the cause of Christ, the church fathers destroyed all evidence against themselves and their religion they could find."

    Nothing has changed at all!
     
  7. JesusDiedForU

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    O.K..... the "TRUE" Mount Sinia is not a volcano yet it is burnt at the top..... Definately can tell that you have done little or no reasearch on this topic.....
    But yet you continue to write as if you know something....
     
  8. JesusDiedForU

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    People before Jesus were under the law; if they kept the law they went to heaven. Jesus just fulfilled the law to were we are saved by grace. As for the third world countries and those who have "never heard" God finds a way for them who are sincerely seeking the true God. Also, Jesus states that he is a narrow path but is the only way to eternal life. Think about all the people in Ameica that "have heard" how many do you think accepted Jesus after hearing about him--not many!
     
  9. JesusDiedForU

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    Yes, He died for all, but have all recieve the gift of salvation? Have all accepted Jesus as the one an only true God? These questions are what you have to ask yourself..... The gift of salvation is a choice not a right.

    "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."

    -John 3:16,17

    I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.

    -Revelation 3:20


    Ultimately, have you opened your door for Jesus?
     
  10. Colours

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    Jesus and Campbell, imagine that another religion is the right one. How mcuh trouble would you have accepting that they were true? Im guessing a VERY hard time, seeing how stubborn you already are with your religion. Well think about the others who were born into different religions, and people like you telling them to drop EVERYTHING they have ever learned to worship this Jesus. Do you think they will have an easy time? I think, if you think reasonably for once, you will find it is not as easy as you think to just "hear Jesus" and "accept him".
     
  11. campbell34

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    Jesus Christ is the only one who fulfill over 300 prophecies written about Him before He came to earth. No other man in history or any other person in any other religion has ever done this. Only God could of done this, because only God knows the future. It is reasonable to accept Christ as God when you consider the prophecies. I contest, it is unreasonable and foolish to reject the obvious which you can test for yourself. If you ignore what is true, and turn your head, you will surly die in your sins. Show me another religion which fortells of its principal leader hundreds of years before he shows up, and is spoken of in over 300 prophecies. Please name that religion, and the book which will out match the Bible. And then if we donot see the error of are way, then you can rightly call us stubborn.
     
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    Well thats the problem with evolution, the only thing that keeps changing is the theory itself. In another few years, your belief in evolution will be considered wrong to. Darwin would be shocked if he could see what they did with his orginal theory.
     
  13. MrRee

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    “And if thou wouldst know concerning me, what I was, know that with a word did I deceive all things and I was no whit deceived.”Jesus "Christ" to John (The Acts of John)

    "If a man has committed a sin deserving of death, and he is put to death, and you hang him on a tree,his body shall not remain overnight on the tree, but you shall surely bury him that day, so that you do not defile the land which the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance; for he who is hanged is accursed of God" (De 21:22 -23)
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  14. SpliffVortex

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    oh boy not again
     
  15. PhantomOpus

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    That's in the nature of scientific theories. I refer you back to my earlier example of the theory of gravity.
     
  16. FreakerSoup

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    The theory of evolution can change when certain things are shown to be inaccurate. You, however, cling to your inaccuracies like a child to candy, because if you can't take the bible literally, nobody will tell you exactly what to believe.
     
  17. SpliffVortex

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    WHO wrote the bible a couple of jews . taking stuff from the old testament . do you remember how silly the old testament was.
     
  18. SpliffVortex

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    lets see moses saved "FREE" the jews from egypt.. Now the germans in 1942 were far worse than egyptians after all they were just slaves and prob treated fairly well compare to a german concentration camp . Jesus did not show up in 1942 or any Moses like. I cant think of a better time for some god to show up than in 1939 thru 1945. they had the golden oportunity right then and there.
     
  19. Mononucleosis

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    Actually it would have been a couple of ex-Jews those now Christians. The Jews didn't believe Yeshua was the prophisized messiah because he didn't fulfil all of the prophecies of the Messiah. Jews follow the mother's side not father's... the house of David was on Joseph's side, not Mary's
     
  20. MrRee

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    The nature of the universe is expansion, development, growth, and disintegration. Nothing stays the same. Nothing ever will. It is self-evident, despite irrational dogmatic rhetoric. The argument that because it isn't in the bible, it cannot be true is one great idiocy. The list of biblical non-inclusions is as endless as the drivel used to justify it.
     

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