A well thought-out argument against anti-evolutionists

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by deadhead716, Mar 27, 2005.

  1. PhantomOpus

    PhantomOpus Member

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    The matter of whether or not the Earth is round or flat was settled 500 years ago. Oh wait, I guess that's old news and doesn't matter anymore.
     
  2. PhantomOpus

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    You are blatantly lying. Your post said, quote, "Archaeopteryx is a fake."

    You have lost any credibility that you may at one point have had.
     
  3. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    Since when did men know the future in detail?!
     
  4. PhantomOpus

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    They didn't, which is precisely the point of the Return to Israel thread. Show me where the Bible mentions Hitler, or DNA, or HIV.
     
  5. xdianax

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    Wow, haha, a lotta people got off topic
    And, alas, no one ever responded to my post!
     
  6. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Campbell34 ignores biblical criticism as much as scientific. He's a wierd one. Almost like a chat-bot with a limited number of responses. The fact is, his continuous lying and arguing against the truth make the truth more apparent to those who search for it with pure hearts.

    "Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do."
     
  7. campbell34

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    Trans-Species, is any living thing that shows dramatic change. This change would be matched against a common relative found in the fossil record.

    And you say fossils can't form in 4,000 years. Really now. I use to work in an industry that used a million gallions of water a day. Over a period of 4 to 5 months the main receiver of this water had to be cleaned out because the mineral build up was so great, that it would block the water exit and drains. It required hammer and chisels to break this build up away. The build up often was as hard as stone. Once this build up was finally broken away from the receivers, some would comment how the marks left in this stone like materal, appeared like fossils. Fossils can form under the right conditions in months, not years. And yes, it can work like that.
     
  8. campbell34

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    Did you ever hear how it is usually the one's in the Mental Institutions that call other people wierd?
     
  9. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    Well if I thought you would be able to connect the dots, I could show you where the Bible states that the United States would be attacked by Northern nations, and all of our cities would burn, and be destroyed in one hours time. And this happens in the day when the Jews are back in Jerusalem.
     
  10. campbell34

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    The person I was speaking to was telling me Archaeopteryx was a trans-species. And that is what those who supported Evolution were claiming. If you read my post ,I STATED IT WAS NOT A TRANS-SPECIES BUT RATHER IT WAS A COMPOSIT FOSSIL. IT WAS A FAKE TRANS-SPECIES.

    I SEE YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE PEOPLES WORDS OUT OF CONTEXT DON'T YOU.

    NOW ANSWER THIS QUESTION. WAS IT A REAL TRANS-SPECIES, OR A FAKE TRANS-SPECIES? AND IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION, THEN MAYBE YOUR THE REAL LIAR.
     
  11. PhantomOpus

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    The Jews have been back in Jerusalem for almost 50 years, as you're so fond of pointing out.

    Japan aside, we've yet to be attacked by ANY nation, let alone have our cities be burned and destroyed in one hour's time.
     
  12. PhantomOpus

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    I tell you AGAIN, since you seem to have the intellectual capacity of a baked potato.

    Point 1) Archaeopteryx was a trans-species in the sense that you're trying to get at.

    Point 2) Archaeopteryx is not a composite fossil.

    Point 3) Archaeoraptor WAS a composite fossil, a fake.

    Point 4) You are wrong, and you are a liar.
     
  13. StonerBill

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    haha i always thought of him as a chat bot too

    i would have thought some guy would have come in here talking about the alien-intervention theory
     
  14. MrRee

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    From personal experience, I agree 100%.

    There is a psychological condition known as "cognitive dissonance." It is described ~ Cognitive dissonance occurs when there is conflict between belief over reality, and irrational behaviour is rationalized.
    It was first observed by psychologist Leon Festinger in a religious group that believed the earth would be destroyed by flood in 1957. When the flood failed to occur as expected, the religious leaders reinterpreted the "evidence" to prove that the world had been saved by the faith and prayers of the group!
    If a cognitive dissonant is called upon to learn something which contradicts what they already think they know — particularly if they are committed to that prior belief (ie religion) — they are likely to resist any new learning.

    New information is subsequently manipulated in such a way as to appear to prove the old information correct and discredit the new, even when it's obvious that it cannot.
     
  15. TrippinBTM

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    I think you'll agree that industrial mineral deposits are not something that are likely to have existed millions of years ago. Nice try though :rolleyes:
     
  16. FreakerSoup

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    That's amazing, that really is. But that's not how fossillization works. Most fossils are found in shale. Shale in a sedimentary rock. That means that it used to be a very fine sedement-goo (like clay) and that these animals (usually small crustaceans, in the case of shale), died and fell into the clay. Then more clay and organic sediments piled on top of the dead animals, and they were preserved, because minerals, over the span of at least 10,000 years, seeped in and replaced organic molecules. Not because people chipping at mineral deposits made marks that look like fossils. Often you can go up to a fossil bed and pick the small crustacean fossils right out of the shale, because the entire thing that makes it a fossil is that it's not the same at it's surrounding material.

    However, you still haven't replied to this post of mine, so here. I'll post it again, just for you. I listed the points which you hadn't replied to, remember? Maybe not, it was about a good page and a half ago.

    POINTS TO REPLY TO:
    1. Theory of punctuated equilibrium. This states that evolution happens not gradually, but in quick bursts. You can google it fairly easily.

    2. Fossils can't be made in 4000 or even 6000 years. A flood 4000 years ago would not give us the fossils we have. Nor would any other happening since your idea of the beginning of the earth.

    3. Even if it did, there would be modern-type fossils (fossils of modern species), too. There aren't.

    4. The whale fossil recently found with significant vestigial leg bones. See PhantomOpus's post.

    5. Then, off the topic of fossils, evolution is supported in living organisms. Diana's post shows the similarities of arm bones for 4 mammals, along with fetus devolopement. If those weren't labeled, you would not be able to pick out the human.

    Your failure to address the topics at hand doesn't support your argument.
     
  17. sm0key42o8

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    There is no possible way we evolved from a monkey! Now the thought of being formed from dirt, well that just makes alot more sense!
     
  18. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    No, please elaborate.

    Don't take it wrong, I know you were created by God to do what you do. Bringing the truth to light through lying seems to be your purpose, which struck me as slightly strange (although, of course it isn't).
     
  19. campbell34

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    Correction, Israel became a nation 57 years ago. And the Bible states that the generation that sees them become a nation will not die off untill all end prophecies are fulfilled. Another words, we could go for another 30 or 40 years, and there will still be people alive from that generation. In the Old testament it states that God would revive the dead on the third day. Gods third day will begin somewhere between 2027 or 2033 depending one where the starting date falls. In either case, the generation from 1948 would be between 79 to 86 years of age. Russia is the Nation the Bible describes as the country that will attack Israel and America. Today on the news, I hear Russia wants to enter peace talks with Israel. The Bible states that just before Russia attacks Israel. Israel will experience a short period of peace.
     
  20. Mononucleosis

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    Israel have peace? Yeah, that'll happen. Sorry but they have a tendency to be not in peace.

    Any ways... what does this have to do with evolution? Campbell read post 236 and get back on topic

    Or are you advioding it because you know there is no way for you to get around it?

    And tell me what the fuck a trans specie fossil will have to show. IN DETAIL!
     

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