A well thought-out argument against anti-evolutionists

I'm not trying to appease the both. I'm stating my view and that fact that in my view there was a "creation" of something yet people can believe what they feel created it. My opinon, God set forth the atomospheric events that led to the basis of all life. There's no proof either way if it greater force did or did not do that. And if I am appeasing it's because of the fact I am a Evolutionist Creationist. Believe mostly in Evolution but know that Creation had to have happened for Evolution to have even taken place. AKA... Something was created but it wasn't all life in 6 days/6000 years.

If you still are lost and don't get what I am saying, maybe that's just saying something about you.

 

Well, I believe in evolution. We have remnants of tails and gill slits, why would that be? And you can't disprove Natural Selection which is a slow evolutional process. Its a fact that humans and plants and animals have changed over the years. There are fossils. Skeletons of early homonids, and many other aniamls that have since evolved.

 

I think most people except for Campbell (and some other person who was here) do. I don't know why I'm being viewed as a Creationist because if people read, they'd actually realize I'm not.

 

i dont know where you suddenly went off, you said you believe that god started it all. i disagreed. then suddenly you said that i didnt knwo waht im talkin about because your actually arguing teh same thign as me. but your not.

this is an issue besides evolution that you brought up this this thread. you brought up another issuebesides what we are argueing in this thread and i opposed it. it doesnt mean we disagree with evolution.

why did god have to start the chain of events? there is no evidence to say he did, none to say he didnt. however, there is evidence that it can happen wihtout god starting it. so why believe everything about evolution but then decide that even though cells can occur wihtout god, that he did anyway?

youve got too much of an ego. your theory is no more credible than that single cells developed wihtout god. get your head out of your arse and discuss things properly

 

I believe in God yes. But am I saying that Evolution doesn't exist. Hell no. if you can find one point in which I say that Evolution is basically a load of crap in another post I'll be amazed. Just because I believe in God doesn't mean I can't be an Evolutionist as well. You have a twisted sense of life if you think that. NOT ALL CHRISTIANS ARE FUNDAMENTALISTS! I'm a liberal Protestant, Wicca, and Taoist, yeah I'm so into following the bible strickly.

I was just stating my belief. I had said earlier (third time mentioning this) that God or a natural phenomenon. I didn't say that it had to be God. That's what got me off on this tangent because you were reading what I said and twisting it to fit your own ideas.

Holy hell you just told yourself that your head is up your ass for believing God didn't have a hand in it. Let people believe what they want and grow up. I didn't say my way was right, I said this was another view to look at. The defense you pick up just by the simple mention that I think God made the first celled organism that, over millions of years, gave us what we have on Earth now makes you no better than Campbell. You can't even tell when someone agrees with the entire theory just has an opposing view as TO WHAT STARTED IT! NOT WHAT THE PROCESS WAS! *sigh* people these days are becoming dumber and dumber...

 

i think youll find i never doubted that you believed evolution existed.
the evolution that this thread is discussing has really very little to do with whatever arguement we are having. you brought up the issue of where the first cell came from. thats a differnet issue to evolution all together, when you say god created it.
you brought up ANOTHER ISSUE in this thread. i never made out that you had an opposing theory of evolution. you thought i was vistimising you as a creationist when i was simply opposing your belief on the issue of where the first cell came from which was a different issue to what is going on in this thread, that you brought up.

i just realised your a woman. are you having pms?

 

Well the matter may of been setteled in the minds of those who support evolution, but the 80s is old news. In 1999 in the Paluxy river bed they discovered a whole new set of human foot prints in association with dinosaur footprints. Also in Glen Rose limestone which is suppose to be 110 millions years old, they found a perfect human hand print.

http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks.htm#patton

 

Evolution is not found in the fossil record, There is no trans-species in the fossil record that they can point to, and their should be billions. The fossil record has not nor ever will support the theory of evolution, and that is why those who support the theory never go to the fossil record to prove their theory. If I'm wrong, show me.
On this post all I hear is, I believe in evolution, I believe in evolution. Then I ask them to prove it by the fossil record. Silence. Even Darwin said himself, that if his theory were true, surly they will find large numbers of trans-species in the fossil record. And his statement was correct, which only proved him wrong. 150 years later we are still waiting for our first fossil which shows trans-species. Evolutionist believe in a theory that is not supported by facts, and they call this science.

 

Mononucleosis

I don't think we're in disagreement here. I'm not involved in this threat to discuss the likelihood of the existence or non-existence of God. All we're trying to do is show the case for the presence of evolution. If someone wants to believe that God created or even still guides the process of evolution, that's fine. I don't care.

But to deny that evolution takes place is asinine, and that's all I'm interested in discussing here.

 

you were right

 

Sorry, but they made a new descovery in 1999 it the Paluxy river bed showing dinosaur and human prints together. They also found a perfect hand print in glen rose limestone, which is supposed to be 110 million years old.

http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks.htm#patton

 

I'm not sure what you are talking about. I believed in the existance of the fossil. I did not believe it was a trans-species. Do you understand what I am saying.

 

http://www.bible.ca/tracks/taylor-trail.htm

can someone else please look at this site?

well im wondering a few things. im not doubting these instantly but.. it would be nice if they could give an indication of the carbon dating of these footprints.

as well as this why is it that the footprints with toes (except for one) come OUT of the gorund but the dinosaur imprints they are in go IN to the ground?

how can fossilised footprints erode so quickly in 18 years? yet the sediment above, which is meant to be weaker since it is not as old and compressed did not ?




can we also establish how footprints could possibly be preserved by the 'great flood'?

 

It's funny how the majority of people on here are for evolution and not for Creation and IT'S A CHRSTIAN FORUM! People love to argue with Christians I guess...

 

who made out it was a creationist forum in the first place?

 

Two things. First, not all Christians are creationist. Second, evolution is a pretty well known and well accepted theory, part of the general understanding many people operate under (45% are pure evolutionists in the USA, and about half of the remainder believes god causes evolution as part of his plan). The figures are much higher in Europe. Get used to it.

 

The main problem is we judge time by 12 month in a years but we fully dont understand the concept of time . But even using our messure sit and think how long 1 million years is " not much by our earth standard time" a shallow foot print on a volcano lava flow from a past animal still exist today now you have an idea how long it survive . bones and other living matter dont fair so well after millions. we also use light years but in many case we really dont know how far away a distance galaxie really is . our near planets are way to close so theyr much easier to figure out. like bouncing a radio signal "but useless in deep space"

 

What is it... about 80% of americans claim that they are some form of Christian yet in reality probably only a small remnant trully are....

Believing that everthing came from single cell or a big bang rather than God contradicts the Bible (God's word)

 

Overall, it is a Christian forum..... How many times do you see Christians in the atheist or Islam forum??

Answer: Not to often because we have enough people that come to the Christian forum to work with.....

 

Campbell, you've got work to do. Reply to my post at the top dated 4/26 (yesterday) 03:33 PM. I'd really like to see your stance. Or lack thereof.
Just so ya know, admitting you're wrong is an option.