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lol...the one who complained about how everyone on here will never balme the acid pry just doesn't understand the premise of the argument. it was put well enough before with the comment about acid being a catalyst. does he think we're saying that you're supposed to be totally normal on acid and any odd behavior is just you not the cid? a person could only be confused by this if the see their perceptions as absolute and independent and an impartial indicator of the truths of the universe. in that mental climate, introducing acid would make the subject believe that he was seeing and feeling things that are coming in from an outside source. but if you see your perceptions as subjective, that there is no perception without your own consciousness giving meaning to it, you take acid and see what you see, but now you now it all comes from within, and that it is all you, not the acid. I would even say that acid introduces you to yourself.

as for the op, I hope your feelings for this girl are genuine, but its hard to see yourself and your future desires clearly through the goggles of infatuation. it's a depersonalizing drug, romantic love. it becomes all about the girl and you don't think about what you normally enjoy. but the novelty always fades away. you still love each other, but you want to reconstitute yourself to some degree; you and your habits and "hobbies". some guys when they reach this point will try to mmaintain their illicit habits secretly, and we all know how successful that always goes. you can either be frustrated by her intolerance and sneak in a high here and there. or you can be up front with her at the very beginning, without worrying about whether she'll still like you. if she's not capable of helping you become a better version of yourself, rather than a different version, neither of you will be happy. you can take the druggie out of the party, but you can't take the party out of the druggie.

I say these as general rules, there are exceptions and you could be one, idk. I just sorta grimace anytime someone says that a girl makes them not want to do drugs anymore. it's just replacing your normal drugs for a new one:the romance chemicals. once the high from that goes away, you want your regular drugs again. I hope you're an exception, I guess only you know that.

 

Consider yourself schooled.

 

is that grateful dead lyrics? another I like of theirs is from playin in the band: "some folks look for answers, others look for fights...some folks trust in reason, others trust in might."

 

get the fuck over yourself.

 

It is, yea I love the song you quoted as well!
How about : "If you plant ice, your gonna harvest wind, roll away the dew"

 

lol well that was kind of silly. and no me and my pals didn't shoot anyone.


but I just think how no matter what problem people come in here with, it's NEVER the acid.

 

who knows what the future brings.

for some reason i took her with me and this friend to this trippers house id never been before. but they are both 40 year old trippers who trip shrooms every weekend and have done plenty of acid. they were trippin on a low dose, and we were drinking, and he said it was amazing meeting somone like me, and offered me 6grams of shrooms for free. im like i wont have em now cause my mind isnt right but take em with me for some time. and the girl heard and skitzed.
whether shes somthing i truelly love or whether its a way for my mind to cope while stop taking drugs... iv seen people fall deeply in love when there minds are fucked from drugs only for it to stop when the mindfuck has left. anyway she rekons she loves me.
strange shes still with me she is gorgous and i cant even get it up yet. what the fuck. i figgured out what it is, i was fine from acid. but 3 days after my last acid trip i smoked weed laced with pcp. and before that day i was a horny fuck and whateveer, and after that day, waaa nothing.
whos done pcp? i done it years ago, its shit the way it leaves you feeling for loonnggg time. i was unnaware i was havin it tho.

 

a woman who is afraid of shrooms! ya, nice pick. why is she so afraid of drugs? probably because she is afraid of what drugs do to you. does she know how much drugs you have done? the relationship is doomed even if you never get high again as the truth is that you have done enough drugs to be permanently fucked up - at least in the eyes of someone who is afraid of drugs. if she is the woman for you then you will have to be completely honest at some point for it to work out in a positive way and there is a very good chance that she can not handle the truth.

if you turn away from psychedelic drugs now you will have to admit that they are a waste of your time or just a drug to get fucked up on and this mentality will only cause problems to people who are no doubt changed from the psychedelic drugs. best you have a healthy understanding of what psychedelic drugs are all about and anyone with a healthy understanding of psychedelic drugs would still use them. if you no longer use psychedelic drugs then you must not see any reason to use them and if you cant see a purpose for them in your life anymore then what purpose could they have had in the past. people who dont find a positive use for lsd and shrooms probably used them just to get fucked up, trip out and see shit. usually they stop and in my experience wind up sketchy fucking assholes!

a break is good but walking away from lsd and shrooms at this point is dangerous.

 

AMEN! this is seriously one of the best posts ive seen in awhile.

 

Or he could choose love over drugs and that would be a reason to quit to?

plus I dont see how NOT taking lsd would be dangerous?

 

or you got freaked out or it scared the shit out of ya

 

i dont even know. she knows the drugs iv done. im like iv done drugs every week for a year until the week before i met you.

im startin to think twice about this girl ay. maaaaan. we put the baby seat in my car and went to get the baby from child care, and went in and everything with all the other mums and dads, and everyone looked as us. but maanaaan

she called me dad

my mind is just scrambled more than if i was taking drugs.
she used to smoke some weed and has done a handfull of pills. but fuckin pisses me off, whatever you do if your a girl dont tell a guy how many people youve fucked. its more of a turnoff than a baby. shes like rekon she loves me allready. but mentioned to me tongiht about a 3 some, which ofcourse is awsum. but if you 'love' somone, i was like to her, so you wouldnt mind me fuckin another girl?
see im a good guy, sure i done some drugs, but iv fucked like 2 girls ever.
iv seen it before alot, people "fall in love" with people when their minds are fucked from drugs, only to realise when the mindfuck disipates it was nothing...
hopfully my mindfuck is dissipating.
and anyway wtf. i still have no sex drive.
and wtf her dad is a fucking minister.
her parents love me cause i took her a single red rose and chocolates and she told her mum we hadnt fucked yet, and that im bein a cop. and shes like her parents wont let her even talk to or go out with any other of her guy friends
man i tell alot of shit to you guys.
i dont mind, i dont even care.
i have to reboot my mind with a heavy dose of alchole. it wont work. its just a short term fix

anyway if i break up with her im still gonna be depressed and the last time shit happned with some girl i took drugs for a year, i took drugs 2or3 years or more before that anyway.
ofcourse thats shit, thats no way to take drugs.

 

may I be so bold to suggest AA?

alcohol does not "reboot the mind." If anything it slows it down, being a depressant and all.

 

you seem to rely on drugs for a lot of stuff peter.

but I mean if you can't figure out things in sobriety, then what is the point?

 

I've been to AA before, it's not all bad. Peter I think you could go to a meeting, you would not regret it

 

one good acid trip is worth 40 years in AA, but that certain acid trip is not inevitable just by eating lsd, so maybe...It just seems to me that AA is just another instance where you're trading one chemical for another, even if the new chemical doesn't cause brain damage, it usually causes brain limitations.

 

I know what you mean and where you're coming from. But most of the time, AA is a much safer, more predictable, and set lifestyle... the drug lifestyle can throw you a lot of curveballs.

With AA, you know what you're gonna get, and a lot of people like that a lot. I kind of miss that sometimes.

 

aa is supose to be the shitest of shit.

and when i get depressed its just drugs drugs drugs. till the point i forgot why i took drugs. and yeah i know thats shit. it starts that way at first, then it gets fun when you forget, then your addicted. then you have to stop cause of some girl, then you get depressed then you do drugs drugs drugs, then you forget, then your addicted, then you meet a girl. farkin hell round and round you go.

 

as soon as you admit that you can not do it on your own with your own will power you have failed. anyone who goes to aa does so because they do not believe that they can quit on their own.

i hate to break it to ya, but the only person who can stop you from using again is yourself, so when you go anywhere to get help you are only admitting that you dont have what it takes and will probably find yourself in and out of aa or rehab for the rest of your life just like all the other fucking idiots!

truth is that all you need to do is realize that you dont need help. all you have to do is make a choice and continue to make that choice. there are thousands of rehab places making a fortune off of convincing people that they "need help" when all we really need is to realize is that we dont need help. as soon as you realize that you dont need help you give yourself the power to control your own destiny the way it should be.

 

And I hate to break it to you (actually, I love it) but even if you go to AA all you are getting is support, my self help peddling amigo. They dont knock you out, take possesion of your body, and quit for you while you sleep, they offer emotional support because in reality, most people in AA are not psychedelic masters like yourself. They are people who have been raped, abused, homeless, and disease ridden for years and dont have the inner strength to just up and quit certain chemicals like you do.
Pride is a bitch to swallow 3xi but you need to get a meal down.