A Stoners Guide to Dealing with Paranoia

fun post to read but i live in california i dont need to hide the fact that im stoned!

 

so why are you reading this?!?

 

you should also add breathe out your nose... a lot of stoners... including myself sometimes... forget about breathing and breathe loud with our mouths just kind of hanging there... when your high you dont really notice this until someone is like dude quit breathing so loud... when you do this it makes you look super baked...

 

Good idea. I encourage all people to post ideas.

Stoners don't have to be paranoid.

 

Post it, I am sure we can figure something out.

 

I'm in need of some help. My highs use to be fun and enjoyable. I wouldn't have any negative thoughts in my head while high. Recently I was caught by my parents and have and can no longer hang out with a lot of my old friends and therefore must smoke alone most of the time.

I usually smoke at night while my parents are asleep. Well, 9/10 times, my high is extremely uncomfortable. First I have to put everything away and I tend to do this in a rush type of a way. Then I am worried about the smell. I start getting really paranoid and feel as if they know somehow that I just smoked. My heart starts beating so fast that I convince myself I'm going to have a heart attack and die.

So, I decide I just need to calm down and relax. My dvd player is broken so I use a portable dvd player to watch some seinfeld. However, when I put the disk in it started making really weird noises. I thought the thing was going to catch on fire. So I unplugged it quickly. I feel as if someone is attacking me. Like someone is sending me signs that what I am doing is wrong and is hurting me. The dvd player worked perfectly fine a few days ago.

So I decide to listen to some music to calm down. I put the headphones in and before I could even play a song I could hear these strange noises. I could only hear them when I had the headphones in. The headphones were not connected to anything. There were multiple noises. One was a fast beat. I took that as my heart beat. The others were these high pitched beeping type noises. I don't know what those were. If I put the headphones in now, no noises.

The paranoia started before I got caught, however. The paranoia attacks began after a really bad experience with shrooms. I could explain that but it is a whole other story. However, this one part goes back to the "someone is fucking with my head" theory:

I was in my friend's house balled up on his couch crying. I was convinced I was dying and being punished for doing drugs. I look over and see my friend. I swear his face looked exactly like mine. That scared me and so I close my eyes and hope for death. I finally build up the courage to open my eyes. However, when I open them I am in another room. My friend had carried me up the stairs into his room. Except I didn't realize this. So I was like, "what the hell how did I get here". I assumed I had died. All of my friends were in the room. I thought this was where I was to go when I died. With my friends. A sort of heaven I suppose. Anyway I came down soon after.

Ever sense that bad trip I have been a paranoid stoner. I keep hearing these voices telling me to stop smoking. I even swear to quit pretty much everytime I get high it is so bad. I miss the old days when I could just relax and enjoy the high. The fact that my heart beats so fast concerns me. It can't be good putting that much stress on the heart. Please help. Thanks.

 

crazy fucker:

I'm sure Unknown American will be in here with a better answer.

But I've found the best thing for paranoia and a fast heartbeat is just taking a break from the herb. If I smoke for more than a week on end I start to get burned out.

I think smoking herb does a lot for me, and I enjoy feeling pleasurable and meditating on situations. But when I do it for days in a row it starts to get boring. However, after a week or so without it, I start to crave it again. And the highs are fine and less stressful for awhile.
I personally believe pot was not meant to be smoked 24/7, but I know a lot of people who do and they do okay with it, so to each their own. But I think it's better (emotionally and physically) to take a short break between smokes.

 

Well my friend you have experienced a very profound change during your shroom experience.

What you are experiencing is a little beyond the scope of this thread. It deals with a Spiritual change.

I have known people that went through the exact same experience.

The answer is to stop smoking weed. Again the answer goes way beyond the scope of this thread.

The people I know that have gone through this have ALL stopped smoking weed.

Weed is not for all people. But why smoke if you are going to have panic attacks?

Something changed within you during your shroom trip.

It is time to put down the pipe. Don't believe me? Then keep on smoking. The panic attacks will continue.

You might try a long break like Wandering soul suggested. Then give it a try again. But virtually all people I know have stopped smoking after that kind of trip. You mind is trying to tell you something here.

You changed. Not everyone should smoke weed.

 

Thanks. I decided to stop. I might start again some day but not anytime soon. Perhaps over the summer when I have little to worry about. One day (not anytime soon) I would like to do shrooms again and revist what I had uncovered about myself. Except this time maybe in a happier way. I wasn't ready for shrooms when I did them and they overtook me. I didn't expect them to be so powerful. Is this a bad idea?

Also, this weekend I was planning on tripping on acid with a friend. Is this a bad idea also? Before you answer take this into account: The friend who I am tripping with.. everytime I smoke weed with him, I never have a "freak out". Everything is like it used to be. Chill and relaxed. Its like he gives off a really positive energy.

I just don't want to end up with some sort of mental disorder in the future. But I was really looking foward to tripping with him. (Note: I have done acid once before)

 

Well done UA! Bravo, a very good read filled with lots of good info! A must for any stoner that gets paranoid; even just a lil bit

 

Crazy Fucker: I think i have a better solution to ur problem after thinking it over and reading ur last post above me. I think it mite just be the fact ur smoking in ur house that makes u freak out the most i get more paranoid when smoking in my home than at a friends because its just so much less stressful ata friends house because u know u wont get in trouble if ur cought most likeley unless they tell ur parents but thats the furthest thing from my mind but any way im getting off track why dont u try smoking with ur friends again and see if ur feelings while high are different when not in ur house and if it is more enjoyable then just stop smoking in ur house lol only smoke with friends at ther houses or outside. Thats my idea tho try it see what happens and by all means do the acid i would and if u start freaking like u did on mushrooms then smoke a lil herb ull feel better. Hope it all works out and happy toking!!!!!

Smoking4:20Buddha

 

dude btw ur awesome unknown american u remind me of my father and i loved every thing in this thread i truly thank you for it

 

Unknown American, Thank you! I think you fixed me. Everything you said made perfect sense.

This is probably giong to make me less scared of stupid things, and it's just so hard to explain. It's like you were reading my mind, and it's good to know that I'm not crazy and the things i were scared of were just normal things about marijuana.

Thank you so much!

 

indeed i agree, trust me i used to get it bad and i had quit before. when i smoked again like 6-7 or even 8 months later, i loved the high again, and still to this day everytime i smoke in my house for 5-10 min i am paranoid, its just standard practise i need to go through, one thing i tell myself:

i am high, i love the high but im scared of getting caught. this fear prevents me from enjoyinh it. < now many times i sat there scared and jack shit would happen, so look:
think of it this way, you can waste ur high being scared, and get caught.
or you can enjoy ur high not thinking about it and get caught, even tho the end result sucks, you still got good out of the situation, and chances are you will not get caugh

if my way doesnt work for you, try stepping outside to smoke, at friends etc, remember you will not live with your parents for forever, times will change and so will feelings. the paranoia will never dissapear, you just need to tame it =)

also i feel you get far too concerned for your health, noone has ever died from pot < ever. your pounding heart is normal, hell i get it so mad sometimes i think im dieing too, 2min later im giggling at a funny picture of something < just block the bad shit out, and take the good shit. dont look at the dark shaddow in ur room as a monster, look at it as a furry animal trying to dance with you. mushrooms are a delicate matter, you cannot predict good or bad trips, you can only try to manipulate them, me in a house with loads of people would freak me out, id want to be in a field/forrest, with the sun out with 1 or 2 very close tripping buddies, spend the whole day fucking about and enjoying the beutfifull nature. there are no boundaries of walls/houses/cars, you see, you smell, you touch - no grey no black, just green, blue and yellow.

hope i helped. wish you the best, and please keep us updated =)

 

This is really helpfull!

 

Hey Unknown American, I have some problems that I hope you can help me with. First heres some background:

I'm 18, first got high when I was 16 (just over a year ago in march). When I was about 14 I was diagnosed with mitral valve prolapse heart condition(MVP). One of my heart valves has two leaflets instead of three and it prolapses and regurgitates a tiny bit. It has never bothered me up until about a a year ago when I started gettong regular chest pain. I had it checked out and it turned out to be costochondritis. But because of my heart condition, it took me almost half a year to accept that that's what the pain really was.



My last checkup with my heart specialist was a few months ago and he said everything was still good and there was no progression.

My first high was alone, smoked way to much, had a VERY intense experience that really scared me. I am happy about it though because I know just how strong weed can really be when you aren't used to it.

About a week later I smoked again. This time I just loved getting high. Could have been high every day, anywhere, but I only smoked once or twice a week. I never had another peranoid high until probably my 8th time smoking again. I got peranoid because I had some chest pain during it.

Ever since the last peranoid high (the 8th one or so) I have always been a little worried about having a bad high again or getting chest pain while high. I went for 9 months without smoking because I was getting a lot of chest pain that turned out to be costochondritis between my ribs but it made me worry because of my condition.

Then about 2 months ago I finnaly got over the fears that came with my rib pain and I still get it almost every day but it doesn't scare me. I started back up and got really high twice and mildly high about 10 times or so. I freaked out during the 2 intense ones but enjoyed the mild ones but slowly got more peranoid for each one. My recent highs also have given me prickly fealings on my skin in some areas (probably from nervousness). Now I get pernaoid/anxious/scared even just from smoking enough to only give me a small buzz. I get scared that something bad will happen to my heart, or that I will lose control of myself, or that weed will be bad for my heart in the long run. But I don't worry about being cought because my mom doesnt trouble me about it, she just would rather I don't smoke it. I don't smoke ciggaretes or drink or any other drugs either.

Now latly I can't even smoke, I'll just get strong fears of dieing even if I only take one small hit. I don't know if I'll be able to enjoy getting high again until I get over this heart fear and my chest pains go. I have done tons of research on medical marijuana and that it lowers blood pressure, but increases it for the first 15 minutes or so. I'm not worried about my heartrate going up because the doctor said increasing my heartrate will be benneficial for my condition. But he said high blood pressure would put strain on my heart.

I'm afraid to get high because I don't know if weed will be bad for my heart or not, maybe even bennaficial, and I'm worried about getting chest pain while high. I don't know if there is much you can tell me that will help other then get peice of mind from the doctor again, and not have chest pain anymore, but if there is, then I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

 

bump. This really needs to be read by everyone that smokes.


Could I edit this into one document and post it on the MJ Guide?

 

"Paranoia is total awareness"


I really like that. Its a good mantra to live by when stoned.

 

Great thread, unknown.

 

Haha, for real?

Just be cool, be you. People don't just go around trying find people who are irie. If you don't have anything on you, you have no worries.