A Quote From Another Thread....

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by come_do_drawrings, Sep 2, 2005.

  1. come_do_drawrings

    come_do_drawrings Jaime

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    actually i wanted to quote this in the origonal thread but that thread was made for pictures so i thought i would just start a new one for it....cause well its interesting..imo

    i noticed this kind of thing...i heard on the radio something about the bomber actually i think i only really heard the number...and just like that no more talk
    its just confusing to me what gets the most "attention" and what gets breezed right past??!!
    like Eiko said these are all people so why do the press and whoever else is behind the press choose certain ones to make a big deal over and other ones well blahhh im no good at this but i thought i would see what others on this board were thinking

    thanks Eiko for getting me started
     
  2. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    i dunno. i guess it is more human nature to respond more readily to people you can identify with. you have more of a connection to them, so your emotions are readily engaged. there's so much nastiness in the world that it's hard to respond to all of it. and the press is in it for money, and if people aren't tuning in, people aren't watchign the commercials or looking at the ads. it's not that people are evil or people suck, it's just that it IS natural for people to prioritize. i care far more for my family than i care for you. i care more for you that i do for someone i've never spoken to. i care more for someone within my own city than i do for someone in a city i've never heard of. i'm not an evil person, i'm just a person with a lot of people to take care of already.
     
  3. come_do_drawrings

    come_do_drawrings Jaime

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    well said...

    i feel sick right now...i have had the tv on for only a half an hour
    too much about all this makes me feel icky

    anyway yea thanks mynameiskc that makes sense :)
     
  4. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    Are you OUTRAGED?!?!



    No... because the tsunami that occured on boxing day last year falls in your pigeon hole for us 'not to care' and we did and it was all over the news and remains in the news as events change..

    Suicide bombings are a constant..they do all blur into one after a while unfortunatly . the overall 'iraqi conflict' is in the news everyday...
     
  5. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    people do so love to expect the worst in everyone, don't we? a tragedy is a tragedy. massive tragedies get more attention than the smaller daily ones.

    and, matthew, i wasn't responding in defense to you, but adding on to what you said. i realized after that i may have sounded confrontational.

    but anyway, i get so tired of this constant pessimism and immediate "see! i TOLD you people are evil and no good and only out for themselves!" it kinda grates on me. people are just people. and most of us are just trying to get by with our loved ones intact, with little time to spare for the rest. and even though most of us feel the crunch every day, most of us will STILL pitch in what we've got and lend a hand when it's needed.
     
  6. flor pequena

    flor pequena Member

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    I care more about the people who are unable to help themselves than the ones that should be able to help themselves as they have ample money and adequate resources.
     
  7. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    see. there you go. you've prioritized just like all those people you probably get angry with.

    which, when you really think about it, money and resources don't do you any good when they're in the bank and the bank has been washed away, and you've lost everyting proving who you are and lost any way of getting there. there isn't a single person on this planet that doesn't require help sometime. are you going to turn away when someone who's always been wealthy is suddenly helpless?
     
  8. flor pequena

    flor pequena Member

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    I mean the US being wealthy/ample money/adequate resources and should be able to help itself. I think there's a lot of people who feel less sorry for them than the people hit by the tsunami for that very reason.

    I'm not angry with anyone. But yes, I am prioritising.
     
  9. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    and that's that. the us may be wealthy, but the wounded, stranded, starving and dehydrated aren't wealthy. they're dying.
     
  10. flor pequena

    flor pequena Member

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    Exactly. It should be able to help itself though and that's what many people think. Whereas third world countries can't. I am not saying what's happened in the US isn't awful - horrific in fact - and the people certainly do need urgent help, but if I had to choose whether to help the people in the US or help the people who were in the tsunami, I'd have to choose the tsumani victims. Sorry if you don't like that.
     
  11. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    no, i'm okay with that, totally. all i'm saying is that everyone has different priorities, and the way those work out in the end don't necessarily make them evil or wrong, it's just how we cope with the world we're living in and the tragedies that beset it. the people dying in the us south are pretty much EXACTLY the same as the people who died in the tsunami. they're desperate and hurting. where they're from doesn't make them any different once you get down to those bare bones.
     
  12. come_do_drawrings

    come_do_drawrings Jaime

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    blahh it must be my nap time cause i just wanna spew profanities

    I have never before really wanted a person dead
    not really most especially someone i didn't know
    but I would not shed a tear if our president got shot :mad:
     
  13. flor pequena

    flor pequena Member

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    A person in need is a person in need, irrespective of where they are from, I agree. I think a lot of people have been a little surprised that the US is unable and unprepared to deal with this.
     
  14. flor pequena

    flor pequena Member

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    I think many people feel this way, whether from the US or not. In fact I think before NO the majority of people outside the US who knew anything about Bush disliked him.
     
  15. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    well, yeah. i posted in another thread that i think the reason it was so woefully unprepared is due to the latent arrogance in our nation that says "bad things happen in thrid world countries, not here." people forget too easily. we'd have an easier time responding to the same disaster ioverseas than we would here, because we just don't expect it.
     
  16. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    You can't fully plan for these kind of things and the inability to access areas i think has been a major problem... i dunno though your probably right .. *shrugs shoulders*.
     
  17. flor pequena

    flor pequena Member

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    There's a difference between fully planning and having at least some kind of planning or something. They could have done and could be doing a hell of a lot more.
     
  18. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    I think the negative way this is being reported is slightly unfair.. i might be hideously wrong about it .. I am just a bit cynical about the way it is being portrayed .... the reporting could be a fair indication of whats going on .. but i just feel like the people helping [from high office to person handing out food packs]would be thinking 'we are doing our bloody best, you people are never satisfied'.. 'maybe cuz we are so rich we should have a plane that holds upto a million people and we should have had every one out of peril in say 30 minutes...' don't listen to me though just my idiocy about all of this.
     
  19. Okay, I'm going to say some somewhat heartless things, I have no idea what the nomenclature for this sort of argument is, but please do not assume me to actually believe the words I type


    But those people are always blowing each other up, why should we care?

    How are they contributing, when was the last time you saw an albert einstein or a thomas edison come out of the middle east?

    Isn't it there problem?

    Now if you take these three questions, realize that they're the sort of thing that a lot of people legitmatly do ask, so long as people care about themselves and people like themselves the media that gets ratings from the affluent will cover the affluent, you have to own a T.V. to provide television ratings, that already puts you richer than most of the world

    the rich rarely care for the poors plight

    look at the people in the gulf, even the ones rescued for the most part are just bitching about how they need to be taken care of better when their neighbors lives may still be in peril

    a mans cares end at the end of his nose for the most part, we like to think they don't, in certain cases people will care about others as much or more than themselves, but without social conditioning ask a man to lay his life down for another and he will most likely tell you to fuck yourself......
     
  20. flor pequena

    flor pequena Member

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    go on, admit it, you're a bush supporter aren't you?
     

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