A liberal world.

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by edyb123, Feb 15, 2008.

  1. Beckner420

    Beckner420 troll

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    "I'm gonna get my kicks before the whole shithouse burns down"

    lol
     
  2. praxiskepsis

    praxiskepsis ha!

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    People forget that pot has already been decriminalized decades ago. The trend has been the opposite since Clinton, first of all.

    Secondly, who goes to jail for pot these days? For middle-class white kids it may seem like nobody. But that's inacurate.
     
  3. Unknown American

    Unknown American Rogue Capitalist

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    Actually I see Socialism more in the future.

    People do not want to take responsibility for their lives.

    They expect government to provide for all of their needs.

    It is sad when people give away their power.
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yes, and because of this they will only become more enslaved.
     
  5. praxiskepsis

    praxiskepsis ha!

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    I disagree. But hey. You guys might be right and I wrong. Which is just as well!lol
     
  6. seamonster66

    seamonster66 discount dracula

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    This middle class white kid spent 20 hrs in the Tombs for smoking a joint just a few weeks ago
     
  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    That's what you get for not taking their nourishing pharmaceuticals they like to push on every man, woman and child.

    Pot = Bad
    Prozac = Good
     
  8. seamonster66

    seamonster66 discount dracula

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    I should have known that every inch of manhattan is under surveillance and that they have policemen posing as cab drivers, undercovers posing as club kids....and that an empty dark street is probably empty and dark for a reason

    If it had happened here i would have either had nothing happen or paid a 50 dollar fine

    I guess they are mighty pissed that not only have I never taken an anti dpressant, but I also rarely take anything aside from advil for hangovers

    was also nice how they told me to breath through my nose so I didn't get TB in the holding cell...for smoking a joint
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yeah, the Big Apple is terrible. It's a total police state and most of the cops are complete thugs. A good majority of them are on a major power trip.
     
  10. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Thats freaking scary, about Manhattan. I would not even attempt in the US.

    I smoke on the street here constantly. Also I use to pass the J in a circle at my busstop in highschool. That was fun.
     
  11. BLuECaT00

    BLuECaT00 Eileen Left

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    Pressed Rat- I am interested in why you have a problem with Zbigniew Brzezinski? And also can you explain to me how socialism will enslave us? Just curious...

    Senator Barack Obama's foreign policy advisers, who on average tend to be younger than those of the former first lady, include mainstream strategic analysts who have worked with previous Democratic administrations, such as former national security advisors Zbigniew Brzezinski and Anthony Lake, former assistant secretary of state Susan Rice, and former navy secretary Richard Danzig. They have also included some of the more enlightened and creative members of the Democratic Party establishment, such as Joseph Cirincione and Lawrence Korb of the Center for American Progress, and former counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke. His team also includes the noted human rights scholar and international law advocate Samantha Power - author of a recent New Yorker article on U.S. manipulation of the UN in post-invasion Iraq - and other liberal academics.

    Obama advisors like Joseph Cirincione have emphasized a policy toward Iraq based on containment and engagement and have downplayed the supposed threat from Iran. Clinton advisor Holbrooke, meanwhile, insists that "the Iranians are an enormous threat to the United States," the country is "the most pressing problem nation," and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is like Hitler. . .

    Senator Clinton's foreign policy advisors, many of whom are veterans of her husband's administration, were virtually all strong supporters of President George W. Bush's call for a U.S. invasion of Iraq. By contrast, almost every one of Senator Obama's foreign policy team was opposed to a U.S. invasion.

    During the lead-up to the war, Obama's advisors were suspicious of the Bush administration's claims that Iraq somehow threatened U.S. national security to the extent that it required a U.S. invasion and occupation of that country. For example, Zbigniew Brzezinski, national security advisor in the Carter administration, argued that public support for war "should not be generated by fear-mongering or demagogy."

    By contrast, Clinton's top advisor and her likely pick for secretary of state, Richard Holbrooke, insisted that Iraq remained "a clear and present danger at all times." . . . Other top advisors to Senator Clinton such as her husband's former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright confidently predicted that American military power could easily suppress any opposition to a U.S. takeover of Iraq. Such confidence in the ability of the United States to impose its will through force is reflected to this day in the strong support for President Bush's troop surge among such Clinton advisors . . .
     
  12. seamonster66

    seamonster66 discount dracula

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    I've smoked on streets in many different places with no problem, not in front of cops obviously

    just now I know not to in post 9-11, homeland security fund saturated NYC

    Like I said, here it would be at most a ticket on the spot, if anything

    you are right about the cops, the undercover were giant weight lifting dudes who were certainly having fun doing it
     
  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, first of all, what do you know about Zbigniew Brzezinski? Have you read any of his books? How about Between Two Ages (1970), where he advocates a technotronic society, where the elite have complete control over the population through electronic means?

    Have you read The Grand Chessboard (1997), where he basically lays out and advocates what later became the neoconservative doctrine? He talks about the role the US must take in "transforming" the Middle East. Sure, he speaks out against the war now that it's not going as he and his buddies planned, but he was one of the first to advocate this whole imperialist agenda in the Middle East.

    He also played a crucial role in the creation of al-Qaeda, which has always been a front of Western intelligence. Brzezinski himself admits this.

    Brzezinski is an eltist and in bed with people like the Rockefellers. It was Brzezinski who created the Trilateral Commission with David Rockefeller in 1973. The man is pretty much the textbook example of a psychopath, and now he's an advisor to Obama, who says we should go after Pakistan.

    Do the research, then come to your conclusion.
     
  14. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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  15. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    i smoke out in the open in boston all the time

    its pretty funny
    we don't smoke in front of babies or infants...but older people we'll smoke in the open
     
  16. BLuECaT00

    BLuECaT00 Eileen Left

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    umm don't get all defensive dude...I was simply asking you about Zbigniew Brzezinski and to explain your views. No I have not read his books thats why I am asking.
     
  17. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I wasn't getting defensive. Please read the article I posted.
     
  18. BLuECaT00

    BLuECaT00 Eileen Left

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    Ok I read it and I am still reading...it does sound like historically he rubbed elbows with some real assholes.

    At the same time I like some of his comments:

    Zbigniew Brzezinski calls the war in Iraq is a historic, strategic, and moral calamity. Undertaken under false assumptions, it is undermining America's global legitimacy. Its collateral civilian casualties as well as some abuses are tarnishing America's moral credentials. Driven by Manichean impulses and imperial hubris, it is intensifying regional instability.

    Only a political strategy that is historically relevant rather than reminiscent of colonial tutelage can provide the needed framework for a tolerable resolution of both the war in Iraq and the intensifying regional tensions.

    If the United States continues to be bogged down in a protracted bloody involvement in Iraq, the final destination on this downhill track is likely to be a head-on conflict with Iran and with much of the world of Islam at large. A plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran involves Iraqi failure to meet the benchmarks; followed by accusations of Iranian responsibility for the failure; then by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the U.S. blamed on Iran; culminating in a "defensive" U.S. military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

    SO I'll have to keep reading....
     
  19. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    where were you in the city?

    it happens, but I've smoked publicly in Manhattan/Brooklyn at least more than 50 times, as well as foolishly copping in well-known drug spots and no cops ever bothered me. I know more people who got busted for carrying an open beer in a brown bag.
     
  20. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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