A Gathering of the Tribes Alternative to natls

sigh...you don't understand & I'm not going to put any more energy into explaining. I do know that you haven't read enough of my posts to understand that I consider everyone to be a Rainbow, whether they know it or not.

 

well, you're right. i don't understand. i don't understand why a kind person such as yourself would deliberately throw sand on the campfire someone is trying to build up. i can understand being pissy and throwing sand on the fire of those who you feel has wronged you and yours. but to seek to put out the fire of someone who just happens to be setting up camp on the same camp site as your enemy doesn't make sense to me. **shrugs again** i am constantly mystified by the behaviors of my very strange species.

 

ii went to the frist agott, not knowing anyone there. the yr 05, my frist gathering was in 1977 in n. m. /// what i want to say is this. Its not the gathering you go too, but its the light in the hearts of those there. dont judge or it will come back to haunght you. peace

 

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okay but i thought i was reading that "new energy" is trying to emerge. if so ... it just seems a shame that the "new energy" is being punished for what some bad old energy did (or does). i guess i just feel sad for the "new energy".

 

as new energy. i had quite the majority on my side. our 300 + those who didn`t attend. to noblett lake which i understand only hosted 30. the only reason people are still wondering about this is cuz the matter never really wasn`t looked into & really didn`t need to be cuz it was success. & it appears becuz of that, will be held same area. normally it rotates to different parts of MO on alternate years. & when people finally discover it was me down there literally & figuratively drenched & starving for the family, 2 feathers lil snit gets flushed forever. & new ground was broken in relations w/ locals. they will keep coming. & ray gets more business too.

 

& i gotta give 4ever thanks to: dude, mark, leavy, ray, dawn owl, pure peace bird, looking heart, robert murray, rachael, lori, loki/london, ten bears(scooter), clay, spence, alterra/timber, vicki, piggy, eli, zippy, nicky, & many others, i can`t remember all names rite now, off the top of my head.

 

well, that's nice. i won't feel sad for AGOTT's "new energy" then. apparently not as beleagured as it seems. but i'm curious. what are the
thoughts of the "new energy" concerning the resentments and hurt feelings
expressed here? seems there has been some ego driven underhandedness going on in and around the AGOTT and some folks feel damaged by it. your thoughts?

 

I think the problem with this is we now have 2 Nationals? And they are both at the same time. New Energy is great. But this New Energy is dividing Rainbow in regards to the National. You are taking energy away from the one place where it should be at that time-at THE National-not at 2 Nationals.

Lets say NERF announced their Regional July 1st thru 7th? Sort of the same thing. The National is the one place where all of Rainbow comes together.

Why not have your National in August?

 

I think I like the idea of every state having there own national and keep to smaller gatherings. there alot of people who dont have the funds and resources to travel. Laws would be easier and they would not have the power to mess with all of us. It does not matter the name you gather under as long as we gather in peace and pray. The whole ego thing is mans trip we need to go on to a higher concienous. It happened with the chriatians when the church started making money more important than the people, that is why there are protestants protesting the church now, once again mans ego trying to control everything. We have to be bigger than all of this and just let the ego thing go. this is just my opinon, and I am not here to offend anybody. Maybe we can take a step foward and not two backwards.

 

That's sort of the point...This will be the 2nd or 3rd year the Turtle Soupers will be doing their thing over the 4th, but thay're advertising it for what it is, a little regional gathering for folks who would really like to be in NM, but can't get there. Steeve Azure Looking Duncan Heart Of Many Screen Names is trying to make AGOTT look like another Annual Gathering, somehow "more Rainbow" than The Gathering.

Since AGOTT is a creation of Lookingheart's HATRED of Rainbow, which he has called a "Circle of Darkness", I believe it is destined to fail. Just a question of HOW it will fail, is all. Now the God whom I have encountered watching over us crazy Rainbow hippies, and causing us to succeed, in spite of our best efforts, year after year, has a perverse sense of humor, to say the least. Causing AGOTT to fail by turning it into another "Circle of Darkness" would be in character for this Diety.

Folkz with Jobz get vacation time over the 4th. They don't in Aug. That's one reason.

 

There are many reasons-all valid to have multiple nationals, east west nationals, north south east and west nationals. All good and understandable.

Except for the reason that once a year it is good for the family-special for the family to come together once a year as one. Yes arguments, childish actions, bickering, arguing, detracts from it. But that's what happens when family comes together.

 

"That's sort of the point...This will be the 2nd or 3rd year the Turtle Soupers will be doing their thing over the 4th, but thay're advertising it for what it is, a little regional gathering for folks who would really like to be in NM, but can't get there. Steeve Azure Looking Duncan Heart Of Many Screen Names is trying to make AGOTT look like another Annual Gathering, somehow "more Rainbow" than The Gathering."

dormouse says: ah well, many rainbows play that game that too as do various cliques and "tribes". so what? humans can inflate their egos over the stupidest things. it's just how we are. most gatherers don't sit in on "vision" councils so have no idea how far from a true consensus process rainbow VCs really are yet the huge RFoLL Gathering happens every year (mostly) just fine despite the egos of Rainbow behind the tent flap politics. besides, i'm a very pro-choice and i don't see a problem with a choice of Nationals to go to. i seriously doubt that the AGOTT or any of the other alternative July 4th gatherings will ever have the huge numbers in attendance but smaller numbers can be just as sincere in their love, effort and OMs as The Official RFoLL National Gathering. and then there's that tedious permit thing. ya just never know when that thorn is gonna be sticking in the collective rainbow instep. some folks are really adament about not attending a permit gathering so if RFoLL signs one for their National then the No Permitters need a place to be. they need a choice.

"Since AGOTT is a creation of Lookingheart's HATRED of Rainbow, which he has called a "Circle of Darkness", I believe it is destined to fail. Just a question of HOW it will fail, is all. Now the God whom I have encountered watching over us crazy Rainbow hippies, and causing us to succeed, in spite of our best efforts, year after year, has a perverse sense of humor, to say the least. Causing AGOTT to fail by turning it into another "Circle of Darkness" would be in character for this Diety."

dormouse also says: i don't find your seething HATRED of the AGOTT anymore pleasant than any hatred "Looking Heart" might habor towards Rainbow and yet i do not hope for you to fail and if you did fail i sure wouldn't gleefully gloat. no doubt there are a lot of people besides the loathed Looking Heart working hard on the AGOTT. for you to pray that their efforts to be wasted and their hearts to be broken is wicked. maybe you don't like this Looking Heart person b/c he kinda reminds you of ... well ... someone you know intimately but rather not acknowledge.

 

Waahhh, get over yourselves. Seriously. What a bunch of whiny ass babies. "I don't like this guy and he is having a gathering at the same time we are" Geez, you sound like a bunch of snotty high school girls trying to see if they can get more people at their "super cool" party than the others.
If it was someone in your clique having this gathering you would all be calling us names for not showing up with our "healing energy". But since he's not, then the energy is just "bad" and nothing can be done. I don't think any of you, except maybe doormouse, have a fuckin clue about how energy works.
No wonder rainbow has become such a joke, a damn party full of drugs and thugs. You people are so smug your probably half brain dead from having your head up your ass smelling your farts. Ego.. there hasn't been anything BUT ego on this thread. Go do some more drugs and STFU.

 

But you'll throw hatred around all over the place. When did I say I hated anyone?

I think...I HOPE...that the can of worms which LH has opened will grow into a nice little regional, indistinguishable from Rainbow. If this does not make him happy, oh well. I'll get a few laughs out of it if it does, and the Family will be enriched by it, instead of diminished, as he wishes.

Have you done any research on this? Dug around in the AGR archives?

Have you even been to a gathering outside of Florida?

 

i put up a pic. in my gallery, i wanted anyone that has a problem with the agott, to see who your diss. maybe you should tell them that there evil. peace

 

This proves what, exactly? I have a pic of my 3 year old in my gallery. She look part of a circle of darkness to you?

 

what ??

 

"But you'll throw hatred around all over the place. When did I say I hated anyone?"


dormouse replies: well, gee. you used the word "HATE" in capital letters (while speaking for this Looking Heart person) and then went on to berate him and hope despair for the AGOTT. sorry but your post seemed kinda hateful to me.


I think...I HOPE...that the can of worms which LH has opened will grow into a nice little regional, indistinguishable from Rainbow. If this does not make him happy, oh well. I'll get a few laughs out of it if it does, and the Family will be enriched by it, instead of diminished, as he wishes.

dormouse says: ya know? i always thought that rainbow included everyone, all of humanity, not just those who are members of The RFoLL. i don't understand how a alternate July 4th gathering is a "can of worms". "Family" is free to go where they want to go. there can be no diminishing since rainbow is a state of mind that is not dependent on time, location or organization affiliation.



"Have you done any research on this? Dug around in the AGR archives?"

dormouse **shrugs**: i tried hanging out on AGR but folks there seem too often angry.

Have you even been to a gathering outside of Florida?


dormouse wonders: yes but what if i hadn't? would i not be "Rainbow enough" to comment?

 

I also capitalized the pronoun "I". Find me the place where I said I hated anyone.

"A disoganization of non members", exactly. Who are these members to which you refer?

Once again, exactly. This is why I believe LH's attempt to sabotage The Gathering is destined to fail, one way or another.

Dug around in the archives, I said. I take your answer as a "no"

Have you even been to a gathering outside of Florida?

What is "Rainbow enough?" I don't know what you mean by this. However, there are specific issues of which you do not seem to be aware, and which you do not seem to want to lean. Going to a gathering, or 3, or 23, does not make one an expert at all phases of Gathering operations, and all aspects of Rainbow history.